Chuck Love - 6'6" Wing Class of 2025 Offered

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

4 Star and ranked #50 nationally by 247 in the class of 2025. Ranked 53 in the top 60 for Class of 2025 by ESPN.

Other offers from Illinois, Missouri, Missouri State, UMKC, Northern Iowa, Washington, and Oregon.

Interest from Creighton, KU, KState, Texas, Utah, and Wisconsin

https://247sports.com/Player/Chuck-Love-46118699/

https://n.rivals.com/content/athlete...299129?view=pv

https://verbalcommits.com/players/chuck-love

[wufan]

I like our new coaches moxie.

[Shockm]

I like our new coaches moxie.

Each winning era (Ralph, Smithson, and Marshall) started with a really good recruit. The “golden” era for WSU recruiting started with A.C. (Top20) Giving a commitment to the Shockers who was followed by Levingston, Sherrod, X, and at minimum, several other 4* and 5* recruits. Gene S. did have a lot of moxie, and hopefully, another perfect storm can happen (maybe not that good, but it has to start with someone) again. I’d certainly settle for a Fred VV, Ron, and Cle. That’s asking for a lot, I know.

[Dan]

Each winning era (Ralph, Smithson, and Marshall) started with a really good recruit. The “golden” era for WSU recruiting started with A.C. (Top20) Giving a commitment to the Shockers who was followed by Levingston, Sherrod, X, and at minimum, several other 4* and 5* recruits. Gene S. did have a lot of moxie, and hopefully, another perfect storm can happen (maybe not that good, but it has to start with someone) again. I’d certainly settle for a Fred VV, Ron, and Cle. That’s asking for a lot, I know.

Turg started off with the Kampman, Miller, Burns, Howard class. Easy to sell minutes when you’re starting a new program. These types of classes can lay the foundation for good things.

[Shockm]

Turg started off with the Kampman, Miller, Burns, Howard class. Easy to sell minutes when you’re starting a new program. These types of classes can lay the foundation for good things.

I don’t put Turgeon in the same tier as our three best coaches (Marshall, Ralph Miller, and Gene Smithson). They’re tier 1, and Turgeon, Fogler, and H. Miller would come on a the next tier imo. But you may have a higher respect for Turgeon than I do. I never thought Turg had a lot of moxie. He always thought WSU had constraints, so he didn’t go after Top 50 or even 100 recruits.

[ShockTalk]

I don’t put Turgeon in the same tier as our three best coaches (Marshall, Ralph Miller, and Gene Smithson). They’re tier 1, and Turgeon, Fogler, and H. Miller would come on a the next tier imo. But you may have a higher respect for Turgeon than I do. I never thought Turg had a lot of moxie. He always thought WSU had constraints, so he didn’t go after Top 50 or even 100 recruits.

Please tell me you are NOT putting Harry Miller in the same class with Turgeon!! He had more losing seasons than winning. In fact, he had no more post season success than fHCIB. I know Doc won't care for this, but I would not put Folger (but much better than H. Miller) with Turgeon either. While he was successful in his short 3-year stint, he did it mostly on the backs of Smithson players who were already proven and had 1 really good recruit and one other good recruit his last year before bailing out.

[Shockm]

Please tell me you are NOT putting Harry Miller in the same class with Turgeon!! He had more losing seasons than winning. In fact, he had no more post season success than fHCIB. I know Doc won't care for this, but I would not put Folger (but much better than H. Miller) with Turgeon either. While he was successful in his short 3-year stint, he did it mostly on the backs of Smithson players who were already proven and had 1 really good recruit and one other good recruit his last year before bailing out.

Maybe Miller was a bit lower as a coach, but as recruiters, Harry Miller and Ed Murphy were probably higher than Turgeon. Cheese Johnson was a Top 15 National recruit, definitely a 5*, maybe our highest high school recruit ever. Bob Wilson had a long career in the NBA. Terry Benton (probably our best rebounder ever) , and Robert Elmore were two of our best Centers.

Turgeon had one MVC Championship, and a Sweet 16, and then back to 500. He did get into the NIT before that, but the NIT was much easier to get into. Turgeon’s recruiting was very ho hum with only a couple of 4* guys.

[ShockTalk]

Maybe Miller was a bit lower as a coach, but as recruiters, Harry Miller and Ed Murphy were probably higher than Turgeon. Cheese Johnson was a Top 15 National recruit, definitely a 5*, maybe our highest high school recruit ever. Bob Wilson had a long career in the NBA. Terry Benton (probably our best rebounder ever) , and Robert Elmore were two of our best Centers.

Turgeon had one MVC Championship, and a Sweet 16, and then back to 500. He did get into the NIT before that, but the NIT was much easier to get into. Turgeon’s recruiting was very ho hum with only a couple of 4* guys.

Didn't realize you were talking as a recruiter only. Not sure I still wouldn't say the same thing, however.

Based on your comments, Turg apparently did more with less. Both were here 7 years. Mark had ONE losing season (his 1st season) while Harry had 4. Harry was 1 and done in the NCAAs. Mark made a S16. Yea, one would have thought that recruiting Cheese, Wilson, Benton, and Elmore over 7 years would have lead to better teams and better results. Didn't happen.....and not even close.

[ShockingButTrue]

Each winning era (Ralph, Smithson, and Marshall) started with a really good recruit. The “golden” era for WSU recruiting started with A.C. (Top20) Giving a commitment to the Shockers who was followed by Levingston, Sherrod, X, and at minimum, several other 4* and 5* recruits. Gene S. did have a lot of moxie, and hopefully, another perfect storm can happen (maybe not that good, but it has to start with someone) again. I’d certainly settle for a Fred VV, Ron, and Cle. That’s asking for a lot, I know.

AC top 20? The only publication having him that low was the Lawrence Journal after he chose Wichita State over the Chickens and Kentucky. AC had the clout to bring in Good News.

https://youtu.be/KVcv664GVAY?t=698 (time stamped at 11:38). Landed on his feet just like a cat. Too bad that right cross missed it's target (AC probably didn't want to get ejected from the big game, like Crawford should have).

You're probably thinking of Maurice Evans.

[ShockingButTrue]

Didn't realize you were talking as a recruiter only. Not sure I still wouldn't say the same thing, however.

Based on your comments, Turg apparently did more with less. Both were here 7 years. Mark had ONE losing season (his 1st season) while Harry had 4. Harry was 1 and done in the NCAAs. Mark made a S16. Yea, one would have thought that recruiting Cheese, Wilson, Benton, and Elmore over 7 years would have lead to better teams and better results. Didn't happen.....and not even close.

Good luck getting Terrapin fans to agree with your sentiment.

[Shockm]

Didn't realize you were talking as a recruiter only. Not sure I still wouldn't say the same thing, however.

Based on your comments, Turg apparently did more with less. Both were here 7 years. Mark had ONE losing season (his 1st season) while Harry had 4. Harry was 1 and done in the NCAAs. Mark made a S16. Yea, one would have thought that recruiting Cheese, Wilson, Benton, and Elmore over 7 years would have lead to better teams and better results. Didn't happen.....and not even close.

The original statement for these comments was that PM going after Chuck Love (highly recruited) had a lot of moxie. It's easy to spread into other areas of conversation, but if we're talking about our coaches having moxie in recruiting, Turgeon didn't seem to take risks after top recruits, although Kyle Wilson was a 4* recruit we got through transfer. Harry Miller's slow, methodical offense (not to mention his lack of charisma) kept him from being interesting for high level recruits.

That one and done team for Harry Miller was ahead by double digits only to "choke" at the end to Michigan who took second in the tournament that year. That team really came on the second half of the season and had a lot of talent (Cheese, Cal Bruton, Troegle, Elmore, Bob Gray, etc.). Probably good enough to go far, but not to be.

[ShockTalk]

Good luck getting Terrapin fans to agree with your sentiment.

I'm not a big Turgeon fan, but yeah, the fans (and their money) let the school know how they felt so much that they kept him there only 11 years.

[ShockTalk]

The original statement for these comments was that PM going after Chuck Love (highly recruited) had a lot of moxie. It's easy to spread into other areas of conversation, but if we're talking about our coaches having moxie in recruiting, Turgeon didn't seem to take risks after top recruits, although Kyle Wilson was a 4* recruit we got through transfer. Harry Miller's slow, methodical offense (not to mention his lack of charisma) kept him from being interesting for high level recruits.

That one and done team for Harry Miller was ahead by double digits only to "choke" at the end to Michigan who took second in the tournament that year. That team really came on the second half of the season and had a lot of talent (Cheese, Cal Bruton, Troegle, Elmore, Bob Gray, etc.). Probably good enough to go far, but not to be.

What was actually done/attempted and what we as fans actually knew, can be two different things. Was Marshall's F4 team built on top, known recruits or did he get on them early, number of stars behind their name go hang?

[ShockingButTrue]

I'm not a big Turgeon fan, but yeah, the fans (and their money) let the school know how they felt so much that they kept him there only 11 years.

Judging by the way they booed him out of College Park it was probably a few years too many for their liking. He just can't camouflage the "at this level" vibe. It's who he is. They feel the same way today more than echo your sentiment. As do many WSU fans. Many of us are really glad he wasn't seriously considered for the job a second time.

He probably (most likely) had a role in FVV not making the international team several years ago. After all he was a -ahem- consultant for that team that ended up with Melo running the point.