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  • Being competitive at football begins and ends with conference affiliation. We're in a good conference now so it's feasible. MUCH more feasible than if we were still in the MoValley.


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      This x 1000. The time to strike is when the irons hot... unfortunately, the iron will only be hot for another 5 years, then it will be as 'cold as ice'.

      We'll all be sayin'... what have we done and why didn't we look ahead?

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      THE Bardo would be smiling from his grave if we pulled it off. He was for football. He was also one of the most influential people ever to be affiliated with our university. Why would anybody doubt him now?


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  • Originally posted by GO_SHOCKERS View Post
    https://csnbbs.com/thread-878731.html

    I don't know if this is just one of our own messing around on the AAC board but its 4 pages at this point, any truth to this rumor?
    The timing doesn't quite seem to fit considering the search for a new University President is still in process unless it is somehow tied into that search.

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    • Four words: "Show me the money." It would take a LOT to avoid ruining the athletic department financially, and we've just seen an example in the late and semi-lamented UConn of what not to do, a large part of which was to have (and spend money accordingly on) big-time but unrealistic football aspirations.

      WSU is exactly where it ought to be in football -- out of the business -- and if it wants to emulate anyone it should be Gonzaga, which has better things to do than waste energy and money on football, and whose basketball program is consequently a great illustration of the value of staying focused on what can actually be done in a given situation.

      I'm no more of a Lew Perkins apologist than anyone else on here, but the ultimate result of his impact on WSU football was to facilitate putting the Shocks where they are today athletically.

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      • The AAC would never take WSU in FB unless ESPN told the league that adding WSU would enhance the TV contract to the point that all the schools in the league would get more money. By AAC standards, Wichita is a small market. To get into the league, WSU would have to draw from a national audience to get the necessary eyes on TV's to get an invite from the AAC. And, WSU would have to do that as an independent.

        That old line, "so you're saying there is a chance" doesn't work here. There actually isn't a chance.
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        • Come on guys, quit busting my chops. I had to generate some WSU related offseason conversation that a Memphis fan wouldn’t turn into “yeah but peso”. It’s a farce, sure, but it’s fun to think about.
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            • Is it time, or do we put all of our eggs into the Big East basket?

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              • We're not getting into the Big East.

                The time to bring football back was 15-20 years ago.

                But I will always support bringing it back, even at an FCS level. I would love to give a damn about college football, but don't, simply because we don't field a team.
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                • The ship has sailed. Cutting football was a short sighted decision by weak leadership at a low point in the University's history. We're going to have to live with that. Today, there's very little donor support for the price tag it will take to bring back a competitive top level program, and every decision maker and donor knows we would have to start at the lower cost FCS level first. I think there's even less support and enthusiasm for starting a non-scholarship Pioneer level program just to have something to reference if we were to claim "we have football."

                  What is realistic--and what I hope is happening within university leadership and donor circles--is a focused effort to make WSU the best non-football athletics program in the country. There is absolutely no reason why that can't happen. So while there's no getting into a "power" conference without football, if the rest of our programs have all the resources they need and our facilities are best in class, I think doors will open up to opportunities some consider out of the question at this moment.
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                  • I would support it as long as we could lay out a plan that has the long game in mind. Like, a very long game in mind...I'm talking 10-15 years because there's very little guarantee of revenue coming in. You would literally have to set it up where the program would be mostly funded for that amount of time...coaches, scholarships, equipment, travel, EVERYTHING. That would run at least $100M just to cover us for the next 10 years.

                    Stadium - we would need to build a separate facility either on campus (don't know where it would go as I think we've run out of room now) or somewhere just off I-35. We can't use Cessna or upgrade it. It needs to be razed while we secure a separate track facility or we just need to build elsewhere. Bam, another $100M or so.

                    It would be a lot of money and it would very likely not be worth it, if we're being completely honest. The best time to revive football was 15-20 years ago, like Sub said. The second best time is now. There's really only one entity which could fund this, and even that entity is smart enough to know that it's likely not a great investment and not very sustainable on its own. Add in the fact that you have to compete with Manhattan/Lawrence/Stillwater/Norman/Columbia/Lincoln for fans in this area on Saturdays, and it's an uphill battle.

                    Could it work? Yes.

                    Will it work?



                    *Yes, those numbers aren't exact, but it gives you an idea of the financial toll it can take on a university.
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