Stunning News from Waco

[shoxlax]

The DA better put a GPS tracking device on her because she will be off like Kenny Powers to Mexico once the trial rolls around.

[Aargh]

According to Waco police, officers were called to Hillcrest Hospital on Sept. 27 to investigate an assault on LaCharlesla Edwards, 21, who had a broken jaw. ]Police said Edwards and Dunn, identified as her boyfriend, had gotten into an argument and that Dunn punched her in the face. She went to the hospital to seek treatment.

Maybe the reporter misread the police report that was made the night the jaw was broken. It pretty clearly states the police were called to investigate an assault. That's hard to mis-report. It indicates she had a broken jaw. That's hard to mis-report.

Whether LaCharlesla called it an assault or whether hospital staff called it an assault isn't reported. The information that Dunn punched her in the face can't be provided by hospital staff - and it's apparently in the police report.

I'd like to hear the story about the "accident" that caused the broken jaw if it wasn't an assault. That's possible, but I suspect the number of jaws broken by accident during the course of an argument is quite a bit lower than the number of jaws that get broken by getting punched in the face during an argument.

I've taken some pretty good shots to my jaw without breaking it.

[ShockRef]

"If something would have happened to my daughter, I would probably be in jail right now in Waco because I probably would have done something to that young man," said Charles Edwards, who said his daughter is in Monroe. "In this case, she said they were playing, and that's it."

AKA

" Girl, this boy can ball. Ya don't piss off our meal ticket. He ain't hittin' ya he's playing. Let the boy play so he can pay. You mess this up, I'll show you hittin'."

DING DING DING!!!
We have a winner. Give than man a Seegar! 8)

[Snapshot9]

I agree, lets not be so quick to judge.

When are women going to learn that even the best of men can not take a woman putting their nose 4" from theirs and shouting and arguing next to their face. Everyone has a built in instinct to protect themselves and especially their face. Everything is not always the man's fault, some women push the envelope too far, and end up paying for it.

What the article said to me was she realized she was just as much at fault, and he reacted, and that it really was not meant to happen, but did.

[Aargh]

I agree, lets not be so quick to judge.

When are women going to learn that even the best of men can not take a woman putting their nose 4" from theirs and shouting and arguing next to their face. Everyone has a built in instinct to protect themselves and especially their face. Everything is not always the man's fault, some women push the envelope too far, and end up paying for it.

What the article said to me was she realized she was just as much at fault, and he reacted, and that it really was not meant to happen, but did.

The "she was asking for it" defense has not played well in front of juries - or judges.

These things are almost always decided on who was bleeding, rather than who was "asking for it". It only requires self-restraint to overcome someone "asking for it".

[SubGod22]

I agree, lets not be so quick to judge.

When are women going to learn that even the best of men can not take a woman putting their nose 4" from theirs and shouting and arguing next to their face. Everyone has a built in instinct to protect themselves and especially their face. Everything is not always the man's fault, some women push the envelope too far, and end up paying for it.

What the article said to me was she realized she was just as much at fault, and he reacted, and that it really was not meant to happen, but did.

The "she was asking for it" defense has not played well in front of juries - or judges.

These things are almost always decided on who was bleeding, rather than who was "asking for it". It only requires self-restraint to overcome someone "asking for it".

:yes:

[AMaizNShocks]

I agree, lets not be so quick to judge.

When are women going to learn that even the best of men can not take a woman putting their nose 4" from theirs and shouting and arguing next to their face. Everyone has a built in instinct to protect themselves and especially their face. Everything is not always the man's fault, some women push the envelope too far, and end up paying for it.

What the article said to me was she realized she was just as much at fault, and he reacted, and that it really was not meant to happen, but did.

A better man would have walked away. It takes two to tango and this woman probably was equally at fault in the argument. But it's not ok to hit a woman just because she knows how to push ones buttons.

[rjl]

In domestic violence cases, it's often more the norm than the exception that the prosecution is conducted without the cooperation of the abused.

The "plaintiff" in criminal cases is the State, not the victim. Once the police are called, the wheels are set in motion. If there is actionable evidence of a crime, a prosecution is begun. The main problem in domestic violence cases is that the bulk of the State's evidence might rest on the testimony of the victim. If the victim won't talk, there's little that can be done.

Obviously, the phone call made to the police can come into evidence. There are many times that the abused, having ignored subpoenas, testifies on the witness stand in handcuffs and an orange jumpsuit.

I can only hope that Snapshot is being facetious with his post, trying to draw some wasps out of a nest.

[AMaizNShocks]

In domestic violence cases, it's often more the norm than the exception that the prosecution is conducted without the cooperation of the abused.

The "plaintiff" in criminal cases is the State, not the victim. Once the police are called, the wheels are set in motion. If there is actionable evidence of a crime, a prosecution is begun.

There are many times that, having ignored subpoenas, the abused testifies on the witness stand in handcuffs and orange jumpsuits.

You’re exactly right rjl. The laws are written this way because most often, the victim is reluctant to testify due to fear and threat of further abuse.

This case sounds typical of many such cases. Initial reports are made to police or medical personnel only to be contradicted later after the victim has had time to contemplate the consequences of the report.

[ShockerFever]

Another bright spot on the Baylor basketball history list.

[shoxlax]

In domestic violence cases, it's often more the norm than the exception that the prosecution is conducted without the cooperation of the abused.

The "plaintiff" in criminal cases is the State, not the victim. Once the police are called, the wheels are set in motion. If there is actionable evidence of a crime, a prosecution is begun. The main problem in domestic violence cases is that the bulk of the State's evidence might rest on the testimony of the victim. If the victim won't talk, there's little that can be done.

Obviously, the phone call made to the police can come into evidence. There are many times that the abused, having ignored subpoenas, testifies on the witness stand in handcuffs and an orange jumpsuit.

I can only hope that Snapshot is being facetious with his post, trying to draw some wasps out of a nest.

There are also many times the defendant walks because the prosecuting jurisdiction neither has the time nor the resources to drag the unwilling to cooperate victim into court .

[Shox21]

Let me be clear when I said "There are very few circumstances where I would condone a man hitting a woman, however, ----- "

Mostly it would be if a man feared bodily harm (or death) from the woman. And I'm not talking about the woman being larger and stronger than the man (although there are plenty of very large women out there). I'm talking about when a woman goes off the deep end -- it's amazing how strong some very small women can become when enraged. Could he have walked away -- maybe. Could it have been "playing" as she now claims -- maybe. How many times have you been hurt when horsing around. All I'm saying is wait until all the facts are known.

She could have been angry when she went to the hospital and said something that was taken out of context or she could have jokingly said "My boyfriend smacked me in the face" (something on the order of "I ran into a door") and someone took it as truth or thought there might be enough truth to it to report the incident to police. I don't know the truth of it -- do you?

Let's not condemn someone until all the facts are known. There have been too many occasions when a "first report" of an incident has been laced with half truths (particularly if there is someone with a "name" involved) and by the time the facts get known the damage is already done to someone's reputation.

[RampageWSU]

"If something would have happened to my daughter, I would probably be in jail right now in Waco because I probably would have done something to that young man," said Charles Edwards, who said his daughter is in Monroe. "In this case, she said they were playing, and that's it."

AKA

" Girl, this boy can ball. Ya don't piss off our meal ticket. He ain't hittin' ya he's playing. Let the boy play so he can pay. You mess this up, I'll show you hittin'."

That's BS. If it were my girl...dude would be walking with a limp at bare minimum.

[AMaizNShocks]

Let's not condemn someone until all the facts are known. There have been too many occasions when a "first report" of an incident has been laced with half truths (particularly if there is someone with a "name" involved) and by the time the facts get known the damage is already done to someone's reputation.

Right.....he could be perfectly innocent. ;-)

[Shox21]

Let's not condemn someone until all the facts are known. There have been too many occasions when a "first report" of an incident has been laced with half truths (particularly if there is someone with a "name" involved) and by the time the facts get known the damage is already done to someone's reputation.

Right.....he could be perfectly innocent. ;-)

WHAT A LAME COMPARISON. NOT THE SAME AND YOU KNOW IT.