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  • Originally posted by ShoxFan45
    What is it that Hatch does that makes his rating so bad?

    Is it just lack of scoring?
    Hatch is the team leader in +/- per minute played. To me, that indicates that he is doing what he is supposed to be doing in all the other areas; defending, rebounding, screening, etc. After reading the Eagle about toughness, Hatch is the one Shocker that comes to my mind immediately.
    "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
    ---------------------------------------
    Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
    "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it".

    A physician called into a radio show and said:
    "That's the definition of a stool sample."

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    • Wichita State vs Evansville Prouty Ratings

      Code:
                    EU      All
      Player       Game    Games
      Hannah       0.283   0.379
      Clemente     0.371   0.356
      Murry        0.217   0.349
      Durley       0.304   0.300
      Hawkins      0.211   0.297
      Chamberlain* 0.316   0.272
      Stutz        0.024   0.269
      Griskenas   -0.114   0.250
      Ellis*       0.295   0.241
      Kyles        0.225   0.239
      Hatch*       0.343   0.228
      Michael      0.000   0.226
      Britton      0.000   0.042
      Steven       0.000   0.001
      TEAM         0.323   0.365
      
      Team Winning Percentage: 0.458
      * Improved from previous game.

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      • Thanks for the 6 game stats. Interesting items during the 6 game stretch:

        Our 4's are rated #1 and #5 . . . probably our strongest position when we are doing well. Will be interesting next year to see how AE and GB split the minutes.

        Our 3's were only #6 & #10 during our hot streak . . . looks like Coy could get plenty of opportunities next year.

        Kyles is in the top 7. He has tremendous upside and it is good to see his minutes starting to creep up. When he is on the floor with TM and AE, our D takes on a different look. I wonder if DK could play the 3? He doesn't seem to stroke it like TM or Reggie at the 2 but he should be athletic enough to play the 3 in most instances (he's about PJ's height and PJ was a pretty good 3).

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        • Originally posted by Ed Harley
          Kyles is in the top 7. He has tremendous upside and it is good to see his minutes starting to creep up. When he is on the floor with TM and AE, our D takes on a different look. I wonder if DK could play the 3? He doesn't seem to stroke it like TM or Reggie at the 2 but he should be athletic enough to play the 3 in most instances (he's about PJ's height and PJ was a pretty good 3).
          Kyles just needs more playing time. He's a good shooter. He just needs to minimize his freshman mistakes. Here are his field goal and free throw percentages compared to Murry's.

          Code:
                    TOTAL        3-PTS       F-THROWS
                 FG FGA  Pct  3FG FGA  Pct  FT FTA  Pct
          Murry  92 247 .372   37 118 .314  50  67 .746
          Kyles  14  35 .400    2   6 .333  10  12 .833

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          • Here are the updated +/- ratings through Evansville (excluding Bradley game where information is not available).

            The next post will have jsut the last eight games Creighton-Evansville, excluding Bradley.

            "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
            ---------------------------------------
            Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
            "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it".

            A physician called into a radio show and said:
            "That's the definition of a stool sample."

            Comment


            • Here are the +/- numbers for the games since from the Jan 17 Creighton game through the Evansville game, excluding the Bradley game.

              "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
              ---------------------------------------
              Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
              "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it".

              A physician called into a radio show and said:
              "That's the definition of a stool sample."

              Comment


              • Wichita State vs Missouri State Prouty Ratings

                Code:
                              MSU     All 
                Player       Game    Games 
                Hannah*      0.402   0.383
                Clemente*    0.340   0.359
                Murry*       0.465   0.358
                Durley*      0.386   0.307
                Hawkins*     0.271   0.299
                Chamberlain  0.161   0.267
                Stutz       -0.051   0.268
                Griskenas    0.000   0.250
                Ellis        0.182   0.241 
                Kyles*       0.249   0.240
                Hatch        0.140   0.226
                Michael      0.000   0.226
                Britton      0.000   0.042
                Steven       0.000   0.001
                TEAM*        0.371   0.370
                
                Team Winning Percentage: 0.480
                * Improved from previous game.

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                • Updated +/- scores (excludes bradley game)

                  Look how many minutes that hannah-Clemente-Murry-Hawkins-Durley logged.

                  "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
                  ---------------------------------------
                  Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
                  "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it".

                  A physician called into a radio show and said:
                  "That's the definition of a stool sample."

                  Comment


                  • Wichita State vs Northern Iowa Prouty Ratings

                    Code:
                                  UNI     All 
                    Player       Game    Games 
                    Hannah*      0.565   0.393
                    Clemente*    0.444   0.364
                    Murry*       0.339   0.361
                    Durley*      0.273   0.308
                    Hawkins*     0.285   0.301
                    Chamberlain* 0.375   0.272
                    Stutz*       0.275   0.270
                    Kyles*       0.480   0.251
                    Griskenas*   0.093   0.251
                    Ellis*       0.231   0.242
                    Hatch*       0.338   0.234
                    Michael      0.000   0.226
                    Britton      0.000   0.042
                    Steven       0.000   0.001
                    TEAM*        0.417   0.377
                    
                    Team Winning Percentage: 0.500
                    * Improved from previous game.

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                    • When you win the previous game (MSU in last place) and 10 of 11 players in the next victory (UNI in 1st place) have improved their rating, that's a TEAM win and a great indication of things to come.

                      :wsu_posters: :yahoo: :wsu_posters: :clap: :wsu_posters: :drum:

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                      • That 0.417 rating for the TEAM was the best rating we've had so far in conference play. The only other ratings in the 400's or higher were in non-conference play and not all those were tough opponents.

                        Florida A&M: 0.565 (It always helps your rating to win the first game of the season.)
                        Centenary: 0.470
                        Siena: 0.423
                        Gardner-Web: 0.404
                        North Dakota: 0.434

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                        • I wouldn't discount the 0.400+ rating against Siena, but the Shockers were clearly a much greener team then.

                          The Shox were firing on all cylinders last night, 18 assists on 25 baskets being the stat of the night IMHO (the 8 TO weren't bad, either). It was a sight to see, and I would say that the bench's big makes in the second half were what won us the game.

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                          • Originally posted by n8
                            I wouldn't discount the 0.400+ rating against Siena, but the Shockers were clearly a much greener team then.

                            The Shox were firing on all cylinders last night, 18 assists on 25 baskets being the stat of the night IMHO (the 8 TO weren't bad, either). It was a sight to see, and I would say that the bench's big makes in the second half were what won us the game.
                            Our best wins of the season were Siena, Creighton here (0.386), Illinois State here (0.386), Northern Iowa here (0.417), and our road win against Indiana State (0.385). Those 4 wins in the conference also happen to be our top 4 rated conference games.

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                            • It is always more fun to post this after a win.

                              Graham Hatch continues to increase his team-leading contribution to a positive scoreboard. Despite relatively poor shooting (Prouty .338), he is +18.3 in points per 40 minutes. In actual numbers, he and Durley (Prouty .273) were +11 in 24 and 25 minutes respectively.

                              Ellis (Prouty .231) was +7 in 23 minutes and Hannah (Prouty .565) was +9 in 32 minutes.

                              "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
                              ---------------------------------------
                              Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
                              "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it".

                              A physician called into a radio show and said:
                              "That's the definition of a stool sample."

                              Comment


                              • Wichita State vs Illinois State Prouty Ratings

                                Code:
                                              ILS     All 
                                Player       Game    Games 
                                Hannah       0.414   0.391
                                Clemente     0.400   0.363
                                Murry        0.269   0.355
                                Durley       0.229   0.303
                                Hawkins      0.315   0.298
                                Chamberlain  0.161   0.266
                                Stutz       -0.101   0.263 
                                Kyles        0.000   0.250
                                Griskenas    0.000   0.249
                                Ellis        0.053   0.236
                                Hatch        0.190   0.230
                                Michael      0.000   0.226
                                Britton      0.000   0.042
                                Steven       0.000   0.001
                                TEAM         0.338   0.371
                                
                                Team Winning Percentage: 0.481
                                * Improved from previous game.

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