2008-09 Roster and Depth Chart

[vbird53]

Vbird - He was invited to, and performed well, at an NBA camp in Nigeria. He played on one of the better club teams and was a good player. Did I mention he is a legit 7'?

He also can shoot lightning bolts out his arse. Very helpful in distracting other players.

We don't really know how well he will turn out overall, but the potential is there, the NBA scouts agree, and he wants to come here, so we have spot for him.

Lets just hope, for our and coachs sanity. that he gets here soon.

I just read your update from Marshall's interview on the other thread. It pretty much sums it up as to why we're still in this thing with Orukpe

[RoyalShock]

It's interesting that there are 14 scholarship players on these depth charts.

I counted mine again and came up with 13. (Micheal, Burley as walkons)

Clemente
Griskenas
Preadom
Hawkins
Hannah
Durley
Ellis
Hatch
Chamberlain
Murry
Kyles
Stutz
Orukpe

[Aargh]

My bad - I counted 14 on both complete depth charts. I still get 14 on Sub's, but I'm still counting someone twice on his list.

Chamberlain fills Mekel's spot, which leaves WSU back at 13 schollies.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

Guards:


Wendell Preadom, SR
Clevin Hannah, JR
Reggie Chamberlain, SO
Graham Hatch, SO
Bret Michael, SO
Toure Murry, FR
David Kyles, FR


Forwards:

Ramon Clemente, SR
Mantas Griskenas, SR
AJ Hawkins, JR
Brett Burley, SO
Aaron Ellis, SO
JT Durley, RSO

Centers:

Ehimen Orukpe, FR
Garrett Stutz, FR

[macshocker2004]

Preadom and Burley haven't been working out in Spring workouts, so I'm pretty sure they're both gone.

[emcfizzle]

This is how I see the regular playing rotation, with minutes in (x)

PG: Hannah (26), Chamberlain (8), Kyles (6)
SG: Chamberlain (20), Murry (14), Kyles (6)
SF: Hawkins (28), Ellis (12)
PF: Clemente (24), Griskenas (8), Ellis (8)
C: Durley(22), Griskenas (10), Stutz (8)

Assumptions: No Wendell, EO, walk-ons with occasional mop-up

That's a 10 man rotation- maybe too many. If we go with an 8 man rotation, I see Kyles and Stutz getting less minutes. Freshman big men RARELY live up to the crazy expectations of fanbases (save Michael Beasley or top 10 talent).

EDIT: got rid of those d*mn smileys...

[shockar25]

Has Hatch been participating in workouts? The only reason I ask is he was being 'tempted' to go back to AZ--something to do with his fiance, right?

I actually wouldn't mind him sticking around. Given time, he could be an asset with his shooting ability.

[macshocker2004]

As far as i know Hatch has been doing workouts. My buddy mentioned that AJ is hurt and hasn't been able to workout.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

I am going to have do disagree, despite all the cool smileys...

Hannah and Chamberlain have post high school experience. They will play a lot of minutes, and play them together for most. I would put them at no less than 34-36 minutes to start year. Maybe decreasing as the season goes on as Murry and Kyles develop.

Hawkins will start and play a lot of minutes at the 3. Ellis will start and play a lot of minutes at the 4, and Clemente starting and playing lots of minutes at the 5.

As the season goes on and people progress, things will change, but we have 5 good players capable of producing a lot of quality minutes and I expect Coach will start with that and work people in as they progress in practice.

[emcfizzle]

Last year our starters averaged 26-34 minutes (Matt leading w/ 34 per). I think HCGM will be "feeling" his way into a rotation (no trusted seniors to lean on? maybe Clemente??) early in the year, with minutes close to what my guesses are. Towards the end of the year I would assume he would trim the rotation to 8, with starters getting around 30 mpg (and a couple youngsters riding the pine). Just my 2cents...

[pinstripers]

...I figure we will start probably 5 guys..........

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

I don't know pin...I see Coach Marshall being one of those coaches like Norman Dale and leave 4 on the floor if he felt no one else was giving the effort.

[1972Shocker]

Preadom and Burley haven't been working out in Spring workouts, so I'm pretty sure they're both gone.

Neither player would have seen significant playing time.

The article in the Eagle today confirms your info about Preadom:

Chamberlain may not be the last player to sign with WSU. On Monday, Marshall said his list was narrowed to around six players who are weighing offers. Depending on the status of Nigerian center Ehimen Orukpe and junior Wendell Preadom, WSU may have more scholarships to offer.

"We've got one, two or three scholarships, depending on what happens," Marshall said.

Orukpe, who signed with WSU last summer, remains in Nigeria. Marshall said efforts continue to bring him to the United States.

Preadom is not taking part in workouts, but Marshall declined to address whether or not he remains on the team.

"I don't know what his final decision has been," he said. "I'm not going to talk about that right now."

It seems that while WP's status is 'technically" up in the air, the writing appears to be on the wall for WP.

We have one, two or three scholarships to give depending on what happens. I read that to mean depending on what happens to Ehimen, Wendell and Graham. Currnt signing period ends on May 21st.

According to HCGM's comments on Sports Daily this AM we are making one last push for Ehimen, which includes utilizing Eric Sexton's government contacts, and if that is unsuccessful we may have to cut ties.

I would think decisions by or for Wendell and Graham will need to be made very soon (if, in fact, they have not already been made).

[ShockTalk]

I think some of you are giving the incoming freshmen too little credit. They may be some of the most athletic and skilled frosh we've seen in some time. Kampman, Burns, and Howard averaged 25 minutes each their 1st year, Miller 20 his 1st after redshirting. JP 22 after his redshirt and SO 18 minutes in his 1st. Skipping some of the past super stars in their frosh season, Perez averaged 12.1 points, D. Williams 8.1, Sherrod 11.0, Santos 9.7 and 4.7 rbs, Arnold 11.7 and 9 rbs, and Radunivich 11.6 points and 7.3 rbs. I think it may be more of a real credit to our returning and JC players if these freshmen play less than 15 to 20 minutes.

:wsu_posters: :yahoo: :wsu_posters:

[Dan]

lineup

Will be interesting to see if any of our freshmen take a redshirt. Depth chart makes it look like Kyles or Murry could be candidates.