Turgeon on KAKE with Haertl tonight

[shockfan89]

I think the notion of capitalizing on a Sweet 16 run is a bit overdone.

We can all come up with lots and lots of examples of other teams that didn't capitalize on a much deeper run, including a national championship.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/ncaatourney08/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=3293539

Indiana
Maryland
Syracuse
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
LSU .

All of those teams (except maybe LSU) have gone back to the NCAA and won games. WSU has finished in the bottom 3rd of their league with no post season play at all.

[newshock1234]

Turgeon even admitted that he got pretty lazy with recruiting after the sweet 16 appearance

[TurFin]

no he didn't.

[Shox21]

Turgeon even admitted that he got pretty lazy with recruiting after the sweet 16 appearance

When did he say this?

[wsu789]

Ripemup, the fact that you are new shows through in your posts. To say that Turgeon left the program worse off than he found it may be the most ludicrous statement I've seen posted on this board in the last ten years.

Turgeon left little talent in the frosh through junior classes. He also left, at the very least, the best facilities in the league, a strong budget for men's basketball, name recognition, and the ability to attract and pay a coach at a high level.

I think that foundation will lead to more appearances in the future.

[7hottamales]

Turgeon even admitted that he got pretty lazy with recruiting after the sweet 16 appearance

There is NO way this is true. Link?

[7hottamales]

You guys are freakin weird. The man resurected this program from the dumps and all you can do is disrespect him. Get over it already.

by doign what, taking us to the ncaa tourney one time?
im so sick of that.
even if that were true, he left it in worse shape than it was.

You can't honestly think the program is in worse shape than when he got here....if so, you have to be like 12.

[7hottamales]

Newshock, the fact that you are new shows through in your posts. To say that Turgeon left the program worse off than he found it may be the most ludicrous statement I've seen posted on this board in the last ten years.

Turgeon left little talent in the frosh through junior classes. He also left, at the very least, the best facilities in the league, a strong budget for men's basketball, name recognition, and the ability to attract and pay a coach at a high level.

I think that foundation will lead to more appearances in the future.

Great Post.

No chance in hell a coach with GM's resume would consider a job like WSU in 2000....and that's not a slight towards MT. He just had very little head coaching experience at the time. We were still betting on the come.

He took a program from hiring in a pool of assistants and extremely low level D1 coaches to hiring a coach that built a program to a level of coaching in 8 NCAA tournament games. That is a remarkable statement on how much he progressed the program.

[WstateU]

You guys are freakin weird. The man resurected this program from the dumps and all you can do is disrespect him. Get over it already.

by doign what, taking us to the ncaa tourney one time?
im so sick of that.
even if that were true, he left it in worse shape than it was.

You can't honestly think the program is in worse shape than when he got here....if so, you have to be like 12.

I was thinking closer to 10. :shock:

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

No one can create a reasonable argument to say that the program was in worse shape than when he got here. You can make arguments for the players and talent level and balance and size, but not the state of the program as a whole.

However, I did read that Turg thought that recruiting would either be easier, or that they wouldn't have to work as hard. I can't remember exactly which it was, but it wasn't a big deal at the time because everyone else was thinking the same thing at the time.

He referenced this around the time he left.

[SFL]

You guys are freakin weird. The man resurected this program from the dumps and all you can do is disrespect him. Get over it already.

by doign what, taking us to the ncaa tourney one time?
im so sick of that.
even if that were true, he left it in worse shape than it was.

:shock:

Ding, Ding, Ding! This post is in the running for the most ludicrous post in the history of Shockernet! Congratulations RipEmUpShox! You have posted some classics in the past, but you raised the bar with this treasure... your post will live in emphamy.
:good:


P.S. I'm going to give you the benefit of doubt... maybe your were j/k?

[ABC]

I think the notion of capitalizing on a Sweet 16 run is a bit overdone.

We can all come up with lots and lots of examples of other teams that didn't capitalize on a much deeper run, including a national championship.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/ncaatourney08/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=3293539

Indiana
Maryland
Syracuse
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
LSU .

All of those teams (except maybe LSU) have gone back to the NCAA and won games. WSU has finished in the bottom 3rd of their league with no post season play at all.

And this will just be our 3rd year since the Sweet 16 and we made just the S16 while those made the Final 4, National Championship game or were the national champs (Maryland).

[newshock1234]

yea he said in a interview right before he left, which was on sport sunday.

[DaShox]

When Ralph Miller left us, fans egged his house and for years they hated Ralph. Forty years later, Ralph had a banner hung in Levitt and everyone loved him again.

History need not repeat itself. Spending the next forty years hating on Mark is no better than those who did it to Ralph.


[quote="SWarehouse"]

I'll fault Fogler for a number of things (recommending Cohen as his successor being one of them), but the cupboard wasn't that bare.

Mike Dart hired Cohen. It wasn't Fogler & it wasn't Tom Shupe. Before Tom left on Friday for a trip to the east coast, Shupe told the committee not to hire anyone. Shupe returned on SUnday and was informed Cohen had been hired. Shupe was furious. Dart threatened to pull his financial contributions if Cohen wasn't hired. The end.

[newshock1234]

Newshock, the fact that you are new shows through in your posts. To say that Turgeon left the program worse off than he found it may be the most ludicrous statement I've seen posted on this board in the last ten years.

Turgeon left little talent in the frosh through junior classes. He also left, at the very least, the best facilities in the league, a strong budget for men's basketball, name recognition, and the ability to attract and pay a coach at a high level.

I think that foundation will lead to more appearances in the future.

where in my post did i say he left us worse off? I watched a interview of him right before he left with Heartl on sports sunday, that said he thought he got lazy with recruiting after the sweet 16 appearance. But never did i say he left us worse off.