Future

[jrschh]

Gary Parish has WSU as his "and one" in his "Way to early 25 and one".

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25542228/duke-is-ranked-no-1-in-the-ridiculously-early-preseason-top-25-and-one

For some of those who appear to see doom and gloom for next year because none of our players are good enough (ok, maybe not that bad), I think Parish sums up next year perfectly:

"This is basically an #InGreggMarshallWeTrust ranking. In other words, we're just going to assume Wichita State will be good again because, you know, Wichita State will probably be good again."

[choida]

Gary Parish has WSU as his "and one" in his "Way to early 25 and one".

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25542228/duke-is-ranked-no-1-in-the-ridiculously-early-preseason-top-25-and-one

For some of those who appear to see doom and gloom for next year because none of our players are good enough (ok, maybe not that bad), I think Parish sums up next year perfectly:

"This is basically an #InGreggMarshallWeTrust ranking. In other words, we're just going to assume Wichita State will be good again because, you know, Wichita State will probably be good again."

This article belongs in media thread, it really has nothing that we don't know already, nice media love that's it...goshox

[jrschh]

This article belongs in media thread, it really has nothing that we don't know already, nice media love that's it...goshox

I don't disagree that the article link should be posted in "media love" (I'm suprised someone hasn't already), however, did you read my whole post?

On THIS thread there has been much churn about RK not making layups, Shaq staying in foul trouble, we don't have a PG and we don't have Ron and Fred. To an outside observer, they must get the impression that some on here think that WSU will be a middle of the pack MVC team. I just thought Parrish's quote was a good reminder of what our "future" holds. Sorry your opinion differs from mine.

[im4wsu]

There has bee a lot of talk about RK not getting the ball in the basket. Every miss of a layup accentuates that impression.

	Games	FGM	FGA	Percent
Non-Con	17	20	60	33.3%
Conf.	18	34	66	51.5%
Total	35	54	126	42.9%

From the 13-14 season:

	FGM	FGA	Percent
Early	187	385	48.6%
Lufile	80	145	55.2%
Carter	97	185	52.4%
Coleby	38	84	45.2%
Total	402	799	50.3%

Kelly's conference 51.5% doesn't compare too badly.

[WUpigsooie]

There has bee a lot of talk about RK not getting the ball in the basket. Every miss of a layup accentuates that impression.

	Games	FGM	FGA	Percent
Non-Con	17	20	60	33.3%
Conf.	18	34	66	51.5%
Total	35	54	126	42.9%

From the 13-14 season:

	FGM	FGA	Percent
Early	187	385	48.6%
Lufile	80	145	55.2%
Carter	97	185	52.4%
Coleby	38	84	45.2%
Total	402	799	50.3%

Kelly's conference 51.5% doesn't compare too badly.

is this pure FG%? or just shots next to the basket? If it is inclusive of all FG attempts then Early should be removed, many more perimeter shots than the others.

Your point is likely still valid though, its not so far out of bounds from the other 3 in that comparison.

[wufan]

There has bee a lot of talk about RK not getting the ball in the basket. Every miss of a layup accentuates that impression.

	Games	FGM	FGA	Percent
Non-Con	17	20	60	33.3%
Conf.	18	34	66	51.5%
Total	35	54	126	42.9%

From the 13-14 season:

	FGM	FGA	Percent
Early	187	385	48.6%
Lufile	80	145	55.2%
Carter	97	185	52.4%
Coleby	38	84	45.2%
Total	402	799	50.3%

Kelly's conference 51.5% doesn't compare too badly.

I think Kelly underperformed from a shooting percentage standpoint this year. I don't think it is near as bad as some have eluded. Thanks for the stats!

[wusphlash]

There has bee a lot of talk about RK not getting the ball in the basket. Every miss of a layup accentuates that impression.

Kelly's conference 51.5% doesn't compare too badly.

I don't think it is an "impression" that RK has a problem finishing at the rim. It's a fact. 51.5% doesn't seem bad unless you consider his proximity to the basket on the 48.5% he missed. His shooting percentage also does not consider the number of times he lost the ball with a clear lane to the basket. It happened a lot. Towards the end I got to where I just wished he would try and dunk the ball. Missing a dunk seemed more appealing than a clanked layup.

I'm not proposing that we run RK off or anything. He has a lot of good aspects to his game. He simply needs to work on his finishes, be it mental or physical. Even HCGM has publicly commented on this issue. He's not the only one that misses the bunnies, he just seems to miss more than his fair share. Here's to hoping it gets corrected.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

I'm sorry I missed following this thread. It looks like it has been a ton of fun this past week.

You guys care more about measuring your e-dicks than actually discussing things. Why does every DISCUSSION have to have a winner and a loser? Can't y'all just agree to disagree and be cordial?

Did anyone else do a double take when they saw that @ShockerFever: "thanked" @kai: for that post? lol

Carry on.

[ShockerFever]

I'm sorry I missed following this thread. It looks like it has been a ton of fun this past week.



Did anyone else do a double take when they saw that @ShockerFever: "thanked" @kai: for that post? lol

Carry on.

You mad?

[The Mad Hatter]

[choida]

Putting it nicely, Kelly had his fair share of f@ck ups against Miami...

[ShockingButTrue]

Putting it nicely, Kelly had his fair share of f@ck ups against Miami...

No kidding.

Someone referenced stats earlier, RK vs. Kadeem & Chadrack (I'll exclude Cle). The only conclusion drawn is that they were more efficient performers than RK. I'm hoping RK can get to their level eventually. I believe by his senior year he can.

[ShockdaWorld]

Putting it nicely, Kelly had his fair share of f@ck ups against Miami...

Who didn't?

[ShockdaWorld]

No kidding.

Someone referenced stats earlier, RK vs. Kadeem & Chadrack (I'll exclude Cle). The only conclusion drawn is that they were more efficient performers than RK. I'm hoping RK can get to their level eventually. I believe by his senior year he can.

I'm not putting RK in the same league as those guys or anything, but those guys played within about 3 feet of the rim 90% of the time. And yes, he no doubt missed a lot of shots in that same space, he was usually making moves to get there that they never had to make. They also had about 4 inches and some pounds on him, so it's really not a great comparison.

[shocka khan]

I'm not putting RK in the same league as those guys or anything, but those guys played within about 3 feet of the rim 90% of the time. And yes, he no doubt missed a lot of shots in that same space, he was usually making moves to get there that they never had to make. They also had about 4 inches and some pounds on him, so it's really not a great comparison.

I don't think fumbling the ball once you get it in your hands has anything to do with 'making moves'. I know I saw that in the Miami game and I'm just as sure that I saw it in other games. Fred (or Ron, or someone else) throws the ball down low to RK, who either fumbles it out of bounds or fumbles it on the way up and misses the shot.