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Originally posted by Dave Stalwart
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The correct statement is that our guys get CALLED for fouls a ton. There are quite a few every game that are very questionable and are not called on the other end of the floor. -
I think you're right but I have to admit that my faith is shaken lol. My eyes tell me that the Shockers seem to be officiated under a different set of rules than their opponents but it's happened so consistently now that I'm not sure what to think. My eyes also tell me that when I watch a P5 game the refs allow contact that might get a WSU player thrown out of the game. What kind of officiating can we expect in the tournament?Originally posted by Cdizzle View PostComment
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While we will never actually hear it, I honestly think the MVC has a say in this. WSU winning by 40 every game does not help the conference.Originally posted by pie n eye View PostComment
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As mentioned earlier on this thread..........does Hamilton not know the plays? Can't learn them?Comment
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I'm trying to figure this out as well. He looks like he could be a horse if he could get minutes, but for whatever reason, he can't. Maybe it's defense?Originally posted by pinstripers View Post"You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."Comment
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I think he just needs to calm down. He's made some great plays on defense by running over and trying to get a block, but in doing so he's leaving his man wide open. If we were facing good guards, there is a good chance they might find his man. On offense, he seems to be a little jumpy, but really fights for position and to get boards.Originally posted by pinstripers View PostComment
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I would be in favor of giving EH more time with the vets and see how he does before it's mop up time. He just hasn't been given that chance yet.Comment
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I agree with this thought, but I'm not seeing what's going on at practice. It seems as though there must be something that is holding him back. I don't see 3.3G holding him on the bench without some unknown reason.Originally posted by Dan View Post"You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."Comment
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Wonder if he can make 2 consecutive free throws? Our other bigs are killing me.Originally posted by pinstripers View Post"You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"Comment
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They aren't the only ones. At times I would settle for one shot made. Our FT shooting is really -- not very good at the moment. It has already cost us one game (coupled with the fact that we fouled a great deal, put them on the line a great deal, and they made about 20% ABOVE their average). Come on guys -- hold down the fouling to a dull roar and when we actually do get to the line, MAKE THE DAMN SHOT.Originally posted by WstateU View PostComment
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I was gong by sports reference.com"Originally posted by ShockTalk View Post
Rk Player G MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 1 Eric Hamilton 16 120 6.7 12.7 0.526 5.3 9 0.593 1.3 3.7 0.364 5.7 9 0.63 8.7 0.7 0.3 1.3 2.7 3.7 20.3 2 Landry Shamet 3 53 5.3 12.1 0.438 3 4.5 0.667 2.3 7.5 0.3 6.8 9.1 0.75 6 3.8 3.8 0.8 1.5 6 19.6 3 Shaquille Morris 23 337 8.1 13.5 0.596 8.1 13.5 0.596 0 0 3.3 5.2 0.636 8.8 1.3 0.8 2.1 1.8 7.6 19.5 4 Fred VanVleet 20 548 5.6 13.9 0.405 3.4 8.5 0.393 2.3 5.3 0.425 4.9 6 0.817 4.9 8.2 2.7 0.1 2.4 2.6 18.4 5 Ron Baker 24 753 5.6 12.9 0.434 3.3 6.7 0.492 2.3 6.2 0.371 4.2 5.4 0.792 6.1 4.1 2 0.8 2.2 1.9 17.7 6 Markis McDuffie 23 416 5.8 13 0.444 3.9 8 0.494 1.8 5 0.365 3.4 4.7 0.714 7.3 2.2 1.5 0.6 2.1 3.8 16.7 7 Anton Grady 20 345 6 12.3 0.491 5.9 11.4 0.52 0.1 0.9 0.125 4.2 7.4 0.563 10.9 0.7 0.9 1.7 3.5 6.8 16.3 8 Conner Frankamp 17 298 5.2 13.2 0.398 1.9 3.6 0.519 3.4 9.5 0.352 1.7 2.1 0.813 3.2 2.6 0.9 0.1 0.4 2.4 15.6 9 Zach Brown 24 439 4.1 8.7 0.469 2.7 4.3 0.638 1.4 4.5 0.306 4.7 6.8 0.693 5.7 2.2 1.8 0.9 2.6 5.1 14.3 10 Ty Taylor II 16 145 5 17.7 0.281 3 9.9 0.306 1.9 7.7 0.25 1.9 2.2 0.875 4.4 3 1.4 0 2.8 4.7 13.8 11 John Robert Simon 18 101 3.2 7.9 0.4 1.2 2.8 0.429 2 5.1 0.385 3.2 4.8 0.667 2.4 5.1 1.2 0 2.8 4.4 11.5 12 Rashard Kelly 24 376 4.1 9.7 0.429 3.5 7.9 0.446 0.6 1.8 0.353 1.8 2.9 0.63 9.6 1.8 1.2 0.4 2 4.8 10.7 13 Rauno Nurger 17 146 3 7.1 0.423 2.7 5.2 0.526 0.3 1.9 0.143 1.6 3.3 0.5 6.3 0.3 0.5 1.6 1.4 7.7
7.9 14 Bush Wamukota 21 165 2.9 5.8 0.5 2.9 5.8 0.5 0 0 1.7 1.9 0.875 9.9 0.7 0.7 0 1.5 7.8 7.5 15 Evan Wessel 24 552 2.5 7.5 0.34 0.7 1.4 0.5 1.8 6 0.301 0.5 0.8 0.636 4.3 1.4 1 0.1 0.7 3 7.4 16 Zach Bush 13 31 1.3 7.7 0.167 1.3 3.9 0.333 0 3.9 0 3.9 5.2 0.75 5.2 3.9 2.6 0 0 5.2 6.5 "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
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Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
"We have to pass it, to find out what's in it".
A physician called into a radio show and said:
"That's the definition of a stool sample."Comment
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Thanks for your post @im4wsu:. My post was not so much about the difference of our numbers, but about the little difference between all our 5s and their amount of fouling (or getting called for fouls). This is a larger problem at the 5 than any other position by far.Comment
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You're also much more closely related to the program than I am. I'm sure there is a good reason for it, as I trust HCGM. I just don't know what the reason is. I'm not as in tune with the dynamics of what I don't see. I just meant that I don't know if it's because he's not practicing hard enough, or if he doesn't stick to his defensive assignments, or if he doesn't know where to be on the offensive end. I didn't mean he SHOULD be playing. Just wondering what it is that makes it so that he should NOT.Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post"You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."Comment
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I DO NOT mean for this to sound derogatory at all. It's absolutely not meant to be. I'm no different than you. We watch games, we see big picture things more often than not.Originally posted by ShockdaWorld View Post
High level D1 men's basketball is a complicated thing, and Gregg's program is even more so. Eddie Fogler was a thinking man's coach, and his game plan wasn't nearly as complicated as Gregg's.
It's TOUGH and you have to be smart and locked in to GET what they are doing, and when you're doing it you better not screw up. It's a tough combination and it's easy to get flustered.
He's just not to the point yet where he can put it all together. Perhaps he will be someday, who knows? But there's a long way to go. It's not just about being in the right place at the right time. It's about reacting properly and it's about being in the right place 10 plays from now, and still being about to go full speed ahead when you get there.
Not easy at all. I couldn't do it and I think I'm at least somewhat cerebral.Comment
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