#15 Wichita State @ Illinois State Official Game Thread

[1972Shocker]

Illinois State game write up from Redbirds beat writer:

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/basketball/men/baker-vanvleet-help-no-shockers-fend-off-isu/article_afed2569-5a43-5a90-b174-9798aec7a248.html

[ShockTalk]

Redbird's biggest problem is coaching. Marshall or Jacobsen, or Lansing > Muller. I would suspect a few other conference coaches with the Redbird talent would do more than Muller, such as Ford, Giacallete.

Given that Barry has already beaten him without the best 1-12 advantage, it's safe to put him in that group as well.

[Shocker-maniac]

Not only that but the Shocks second win of the season against a team with more talent at every spot on the roster 1 through 12. And the Shocks managed to win today even thought the shot poorly from the field.

Seriously, though I do think Illinois State has pretty good talent and athleticism on this team. The Shocks did a yeoman's job on Daishon Knight after he torched the Shocks in Koch Arena.

This Shocker team has players who know how to win better than ILS at every spot on the roster 1 through 12.

Redbird's biggest problem is coaching. Marshall or Jacobsen, or Lansing > Muller. I would suspect a few other conference coaches with the Redbird talent would do more than Muller, such as Ford, Giacallete.

[Turd Furgeson]

I could try to explain it to you, but 10 minutes later you would continue to argue with me.

That is all.

Oh did the same thing happen at the Y this weekend?

[Dan]

They might end up being a real ***** of a team soon.

I really like Purcell, Lynch and McIntosh. Anyone that thinks Paris Lee or Bobby Hunter > Fred VanVleet and/or Ron Baker is a certified moron.

[pinstripers]

They might end up being a real ***** of a team soon.

[ShockRef]

Dont get how the official on the baseline can make that call

I could try to explain it to you, but 10 minutes later you would continue to argue with me.

That is all.

[WSUwatcher]

This Shocker team has players who know how to win better than ILS at every spot on the roster 1 through 12.

Excellent observation, 1972. I wonder how Giacoletti missed that?

[Ricardo del Rio]

I agree that they have a lot of talent. They're just poorly coached.

Plus lack of brains.

[Ricardo del Rio]

Cotton brings in so many positive things to each game. Tonight it was defense as always but the 10 rebounds all equal possessions which were very handy tonight for the Shocker road warriors.

Aggression in the paint was outstanding.

[Ricardo del Rio]

Not only that but the Shocks second win of the season against a team with more talent at every spot on the roster 1 through 12. And the Shocks managed to win today even though they shot poorly from the field.

Seriously, though I do think Illinois State has pretty good talent and athleticism on this team. The Shocks did a yeoman's job on Daishon Knight, after he torched the Shocks in Koch Arena.

This Shocker team has players who know how to win better than ILS at every spot on the roster 1 through 12.

Well played.

The Red Birds' problem has nothing to do with athleticism or skills.

[forevershockerfan]

Tonight was a nice improvement on rebounds for us versus our game in Wichita even though the birds had all of their players tonight unlike the game here. It is always nice to give the birds some Shock tweetment, especially on Valentines Day. This is a sign we are still improving and we beat them easier than UNI did at Normal. I loved the dunk by Kelly which fouled out Lynch. The fire in his belly though must be contained, especially in such close games. FVV grabbed him and pushed him the other way but it was too late. Kelly is going to continue to improve and I like his motor. Cotton cleaned glass tonight and those 10 or so possessions came in might handy. He is just another great example of how players improve here through their careers at WSU. Wessel had a nice game and we always know he is giving it his all, where he is supposed to be, and out to help us win which he is very used to doing.

[Ricardo del Rio]

Both. Our bench is a circumstance...

A nice choice of words. Sorta like work in progress.

[ShockerFever]

We just swept preseason number one!

Dan is one smart man. I'm glad the extra vote of confidence helped his team out this year.

[ShockerFever]

If you did you would find most of their anger directed at Dashon Knight and Dan Mueller.

There also is a "I hate Gregg Marshall" thread.

Again, you hate the people that own you. And so it goes.