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  • #16
    Gal just doesn't know how to manage the clock in the final 2 minutes. He's like the Herm Edwards of college basketball.
    "You can observe a lot just by watching."
    -- Yogi Berra

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    • #17
      Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded
      Originally posted by DoubleJayAlum
      If under no circumstances did the coach want Mekel touching the ball, why even leave him on the court in the first place?

      Also, I'd love to have Clemente on the Jays right now. We could use a rebounder like that.
      Questioning the coach on this forum is risky. You could be subject to personal attacks or even warnings from the resident administrator...

      It is best to phrase your question like this: Why didn't Gal, in his infinite stupidity and talentlessness...?


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      Who would you guys have rather seen in there in Gal's place? Preadom? He shoots under 38% from the line. Matt shoots 53%. PJ 60%. Lance is 1 of 1, but didn't play very confidently last night.

      The simple fact is, one person stepped up last night and that was Ramon. He would have taken the ball. He wanted the ball, and worked to get open. PJ was hiding. Matt is just not physical enough to handle what the ref's were allowing, Phil and JT don't know how to not foul, or step up at the line. Gal makes Sophomoronic mistakes with the ball, but he wasn't the only one to make them last night. Our SENIOR scholarship players all had as many or more turnovers than Gal did last night. That includes PJ, Matt, and Phil.

      Phil fouled out in 19 mins, without a single rebound. Gal was 1-10 from the floor. Why? Did anyone watch the game. He and Matt had no choice but to chuck it up. ISU was tight inside and not allowing anything in. PJ wasn't working to get open, he was just bouncing around. Ramon had position several times, but they couldn't get him the ball. Gal has been cold from the floor, but PJ has had several of those games this year as well.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by DoubleJayAlum
        If under no circumstances did the coach want Mekel touching the ball, why even leave him on the court in the first place?

        Also, I'd love to have Clemente on the Jays right now. We could use a rebounder like that.
        Mekel is one of three Shockers who can put the ball in the hole with any degree of consistency beyond 15 feet.

        So he should be an option to shoot, but not distribute.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by RoyalShock
          Originally posted by DoubleJayAlum
          If under no circumstances did the coach want Mekel touching the ball, why even leave him on the court in the first place?

          Also, I'd love to have Clemente on the Jays right now. We could use a rebounder like that.
          Mekel is one of three Shockers who can put the ball in the hole with any degree of consistency beyond 15 feet.

          So he should be an option to shoot, but not distribute.
          Fair enough, but how is he supposed to shoot if he isn't allowed to touch the ball ?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by RoyalShock
            Originally posted by DoubleJayAlum
            If under no circumstances did the coach want Mekel touching the ball, why even leave him on the court in the first place?

            Also, I'd love to have Clemente on the Jays right now. We could use a rebounder like that.
            Mekel is one of three Shockers who can put the ball in the hole with any degree of consistency beyond 15 feet.

            So he should be an option to shoot, but not distribute.
            Gal is also one of the few who can usually make a free throw and can handle the ball. He normally would be someone you would want with the ball and a lead at the end of a game. Unfortunately when he ( or any of the players that I have seen) is highly pressured (many would say fouled) he tends to dribble far too much and too long. As Dave Stallworth pointed out this morning on SportsDaily there is too much dribbling, that and passing the ball keeps the defense behind while dribbling lets it catch up.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by engrshock
              Originally posted by RoyalShock
              Originally posted by DoubleJayAlum
              If under no circumstances did the coach want Mekel touching the ball, why even leave him on the court in the first place?

              Also, I'd love to have Clemente on the Jays right now. We could use a rebounder like that.
              Mekel is one of three Shockers who can put the ball in the hole with any degree of consistency beyond 15 feet.

              So he should be an option to shoot, but not distribute.
              Gal is also one of the few who can usually make a free throw and can handle the ball. He normally would be someone you would want with the ball and a lead at the end of a game. Unfortunately when he ( or any of the players that I have seen) is highly pressured (many would say fouled) he tends to dribble far too much and too long. As Dave Stallworth pointed out this morning on SportsDaily there is too much dribbling, that and passing the ball keeps the defense behind while dribbling lets it catch up.
              Gal is the queen of dribble... he also tried one of his patented jack-ass plays during Indiana States 21-0 run... he could have passed the ball to a wide-open teammate for a dunk, but instead he tried a fake-pass-dipsy-doo around a defender near the basket and short armed a lay-up (Marshall went ballistic on the sideline). He did make up for the boneheaded play by drawing a charge on the other end… probably was a block.
              Anyway, we didn’t score again until the game was tied. PJ also missed a critical break-away dunk when we had around a 15 point lead (I assume it was a dunk… the channel 22 cameramen was taking a break from the action). I honestly believe that those 2 missed opportunities completely changed the momentum of the game and sucked the life out of our team.
              SFL is back!

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              • #22
                im kind of responding to DJA as well as making a general statement as well.

                Ramon has been everything we missed last year. Unfortunately we needed more than what we are getting from him this year.

                What I mean is,
                Ramon is that consistent post presence as far as being in the paint and rebounding. His scoring and offensive abilities at time leaves one to desire, but man what we could have done with him last year.

                Due to injuries and other of the sort we need him to fill a more offensive role with this team. Our shooting as a team has been horrid all year, with the exception of the last few games. So Ramo hasnt needed to be that much of a threat on the O side of things.

                But with all that said Im glad he has came here. And with his defense, rebounding and overall pedal to the medal attitude im more than fine with his lack of scoring ability and as well as the promise that that ability has shown itself and forthcoming

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by SFL
                  he also tried one of his patented jack-ass plays during Indiana States 21-0 run... he could have passed the ball to a wide-open teammate for a dunk, but instead he tried a fake-pass-dipsy-doo around a defender near the basket and short armed a lay-up
                  If he makes that layup though everybody crowns his arse.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Awesome Sauce Malone
                    Originally posted by SFL
                    he also tried one of his patented jack-ass plays during Indiana States 21-0 run... he could have passed the ball to a wide-open teammate for a dunk, but instead he tried a fake-pass-dipsy-doo around a defender near the basket and short armed a lay-up
                    If he makes that layup though everybody crowns his arse.
                    Or if PJ, or JT make a FT, or PJ makes that Dunk, or Matt doesn't turn the ball over, or Ramon gets that rebound, or Coach calls a different play, or the guy working the scoreboard on the TV broadcast can add, or Bruce and Craig don't spend the last 13 mins of game talking about Creighton, Northern Iowa, Southern Illinois, and every other game they had won but gave away, if shockref had made that travel call, or ASM would have kicked his TV causing any of the shots in the last 12 mins to fall.....

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Downtown Shocker Brown
                      Originally posted by Awesome Sauce Malone
                      Originally posted by SFL
                      he also tried one of his patented jack-ass plays during Indiana States 21-0 run... he could have passed the ball to a wide-open teammate for a dunk, but instead he tried a fake-pass-dipsy-doo around a defender near the basket and short armed a lay-up
                      If he makes that layup though everybody crowns his arse.
                      Or if PJ, or JT make a FT, or PJ makes that Dunk, or Matt doesn't turn the ball over, or Ramon gets that rebound, or Coach calls a different play, or the guy working the scoreboard on the TV broadcast can add, or Bruce and Craig don't spend the last 13 mins of game talking about Creighton, Northern Iowa, Southern Illinois, and every other game they had won but gave away, if shockref had made that travel call, or ASM would have kicked his TV causing any of the shots in the last 12 mins to fall.....
                      That wasnt my point but I agree with what you are saying.

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                      • #26
                        "or ASM would have kicked his TV causing any of the shots in the last 12 mins to fall....."

                        I am pretty sure that doesn't work. Neither does closing your eyes, covering your eyes, yelling, screaming or kicking anything else in range.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by engrshock
                          "or ASM would have kicked his TV causing any of the shots in the last 12 mins to fall....."

                          I am pretty sure that doesn't work. Neither does closing your eyes, covering your eyes, yelling, screaming or kicking anything else in range.
                          It might not help, but does make a guy feel better about the situation. At least until you realize you have to replace the TV.

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                          • #28
                            I got your point, but it just seems that every game Gal is blamed for a mistake or two that cost us the game, or could have cost us the game. Even against Northern Iowa, with the big shots he did make, people complained that he didn't shoot well, or made a bad pass, etc.

                            Matt, PJ, and Phil make just as many mistakes. Gal wants the ball at crunch time, unlike PJ and Phil, and most teams will deny Matt the ball leaving one option. Guess what, he is a Soph., not a Senior. The seniors should be demanding the ball. PJ. Not playing hot potato when you do get it. PHIL. And if no one else shows for the ball, or helps set a screen to get Matt the ball, what is Gal supposed to do? Shoot or keep dribbling are his two options, and knowing his shot wasn't falling last night, he kept trying to get the ball to SOMEONE.

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                            • #29
                              The point is that a game is made up of so many individual plays, with so much focus on the end.

                              If PJ makes that dunk, we win. There were so many of those plays that needed to be made from that point on, that if made change the outcome of the game, and NO ONE, not Matt, not PJ, not Gal, not Phil, not Ramon, not JT, not Lance, not Aaron, not Wendell, made the play that needed to be made.

                              You can't call out one person last night. And most nights for that matter. Yes, occasionally there is that situation that falls on one person (chris webber and his infamous TO), but rarely.

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                              • #30
                                DSB thats kind of what I was saying. If he makes that layup everybody is ready to slob him down. But since he missed it was the worst ever.

                                Blaming last nights loss on Gal is like picking on kids with down syndrome.

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