Marshall: Don't give Gal the ball !!!

[Awesome Sauce Malone]

[quote="OTR Shockfan"]

The thing about that play is 10 times out of 10 Gal is gonna fake the pass and try to score himself. How the D doesn't take more charges in those situations I'll never know.

Wow read much. Sub said thats a normal play for Gal he does it all the time. He doesnt understand why the other teams keeps falling for it everytime. Sounds like Praise to me. But FTH do I know I attended Wichita/Haysville Public Schools. Reading wasnt a luxury that could be afforded to us poor folks.

Well since that comment followed

This year's theme is blame gal gal does this gal does that.

Of yours, the context sure seemed to be
Gal is to blame ,, gal doen't pass the ball off , he hogs it to shoot, and should be called for the charge .

But what do I know I just got me an Pubimilic edumuckation ya Know , an
ant red nuthin fer to long

Again learn to read. I made more posts on the topic then just that one. and the post of mine that you qouted was actually a response to somebody.

As a matter of fact let me help you since I know you wont go back through and read anything.

DSB thats kind of what I was saying. If he makes that layup everybody is ready to slob him down. But since he missed it was the worst ever.

Blaming last nights loss on Gal is like picking on kids with down syndrome.

DSB thats kind of what I was saying. If he makes that layup everybody is ready to slob him down. But since he missed it was the worst ever.

Blaming last nights loss on Gal is like picking on kids with down syndrome.

I've read every post and don't see anyone specifically blaming Gal for the loss... they're just criticizing his boneheaded decisions during crucial situations.

This year's theme is blame gal gal does this gal does that.

Da da da da *rasberry&

[OTR Shockfan]

[quote="Awesome Sauce Malone"]

The thing about that play is 10 times out of 10 Gal is gonna fake the pass and try to score himself. How the D doesn't take more charges in those situations I'll never know.

Wow read much. Sub said thats a normal play for Gal he does it all the time. He doesnt understand why the other teams keeps falling for it everytime. Sounds like Praise to me. But FTH do I know I attended Wichita/Haysville Public Schools. Reading wasnt a luxury that could be afforded to us poor folks.

Well since that comment followed

This year's theme is blame gal gal does this gal does that.

Of yours, the context sure seemed to be
Gal is to blame ,, gal doen't pass the ball off , he hogs it to shoot, and should be called for the charge .

But what do I know I just got me an Pubimilic edumuckation ya Know , an
ant red nuthin fer to long

[Smooth007]

This is athletics. It's not child rearing. It's not supposed to be easy. It's not all fun and games, smiley face, feel-good moments. If it was cake, ballons and party animals all the time EVERYBODY would do it. Sports are tough physically and mentally, that's why we're on a message board and they're playing the game.

Seriously, though, most of these guys are "men." They eat like men, they compete like men, and they should take responsibility and criticism like men. Oh, and if this is someone's most embarrasing moment, well, they got off easy - far, far too easy. I think most (myself included) have far (and away) more humiliating moments.

What fun would you be referring to? Let's take Gal for example, half way accross the world from your family, practices like hell, losing the majority of the games, being called out publically by your leader and having fans constantly question your abilities during the actual game. Sounds great....

While Gal most certainly is man enough the handle it some of the others may not be. Managers who publicly criticize lose good people.

[BA2929]

could you explain how Gal's carreer asst is 2.7

and Matt's is 2.6 ????

Are you really coming with an argument that boasts a 0.1 CAREER assist differential with a senior and a soph?

Maybe you don't realize this, but Matt has played twice as many games as Gal has in his career and has nearly twice as many career assists as Gal does. Comparing career averages with a Senior and a Sophomore isn't a good way of showing greatness.

Plus, that list wasn't even warranted for the post Sub made. I don't think he was comparing Gal to Matt anyway.

[Awesome Sauce Malone]

The thing about that play is 10 times out of 10 Gal is gonna fake the pass and try to score himself. How the D doesn't take more charges in those situations I'll never know.

So,,,,,, could you explain how Gal's carreer asst is 2.7

and Matt's is 2.6 ???? does that mean that Matt does a worse job at distributing the ball than Gal ?

Gal 6.8 points per game Carreer
Matt 6.2 PPG carreer

turn overs this season 2.4 per game for Matt
2.7 for Gal

Carreer 1.4 Matt
2.0 Gal

This season Averages Gal 10 ppg 3.9 ast 3.3 reb
Matt 12.2 ppg 3.3 ast 3.8 reb

Seems to me your talkin out your Arse , But then again It COULD BE
your Frustrated too.

FINALE ANSWER is it's a team game and everybody either deserves CREDIT for the win or BLAME for the loss (including the Coaching staff)

we're in the end of a bad , Ugly year and it stings, Guess what the sun will still come up tomarow ,, Get over it

But I spose there will always be those who feel the need to Bash one or two players that they for what ever reason dont like ,

Wow read much. Sub said thats a normal play for Gal he does it all the time. He doesnt understand why the other teams keeps falling for it everytime. Sounds like Praise to me. But FTH do I know I attended Wichita/Haysville Public Schools. Reading wasnt a luxury that could be afforded to us poor folks.

[OTR Shockfan]

The thing about that play is 10 times out of 10 Gal is gonna fake the pass and try to score himself. How the D doesn't take more charges in those situations I'll never know.

So,,,,,, could you explain how Gal's carreer asst is 2.7

and Matt's is 2.6 ???? does that mean that Matt does a worse job at distributing the ball than Gal ?

Gal 6.8 points per game Carreer
Matt 6.2 PPG carreer

turn overs this season 2.4 per game for Matt
2.7 for Gal

Carreer 1.4 Matt
2.0 Gal

This season Averages Gal 10 ppg 3.9 ast 3.3 reb
Matt 12.2 ppg 3.3 ast 3.8 reb

Seems to me your talkin out your Arse , But then again It COULD BE
your Frustrated too.

FINALE ANSWER is it's a team game and everybody either deserves CREDIT for the win or BLAME for the loss (including the Coaching staff)

we're in the end of a bad , Ugly year and it stings, Guess what the sun will still come up tomarow ,, Get over it

But I spose there will always be those who feel the need to Bash one or two players that they for what ever reason dont like ,

[rrshock]

The "Don't give Mekel the Ball" statement does not make any logical sense. And perhaps logical is the key word in this situation. If Marshall didn't want any player to touch the ball (which certainly limits any offense) then why was that player even in the game?

Afterall, many of you defend the coach by saying he isn't missing the shots and that's true. But there is one thing he certainly is in charge of and that is who touches the ball. Last time I looked it was the coach who determined who the five guys on the court were. If a player isn't on the floor, he can't very well touch it.

Let's see...at that point weren't 2 guys DQ'd already? So that takes the available players down to 8. Then you have to figure that the big guys can't handle the ball. So that leaves only MB, WP, GM, and LH to handle the ball. I sure don't want WP out there, who couldn't score if he was shooting it into the ocean. So that leaves 3 and I don't know who was out there, but I'm pretty sure I would have said the same thing coach did. You have to play 5 guys if you have 5 eligible, so coach really didn't have too much of a choice of who to have on the court.

[DPruett2333]

I probably would have yelled "DON'T PASS IS TO P.J., PHIL, J.T., CLEMENTE!" ...or whoever else was on the court besides Matt. I mean, come on, everyone was turning the ball over like it was a hot potato and the best guy we have with the ball is Matt...

[wu_shizzle]

The "Don't give Mekel the Ball" statement does not make any logical sense. And perhaps logical is the key word in this situation. If Marshall didn't want any player to touch the ball (which certainly limits any offense) then why was that player even in the game?

I just watched this play on the repeat.

How hard is it to understand that HCGM wanted Matt and not Gal to have the ball at the end of the shot clock?

I'm sure he didn't want the ball in JT's hand either.

[60Shock]

I have heard coaches yell out to their own players to keep the ball away from a hot player on an opposing team, but I have never heard of any coach yell out to his own players to keep the ball away from a teammate. Have you?

The "Don't give Mekel the Ball" statement does not make any logical sense. And perhaps logical is the key word in this situation. If Marshall didn't want any player to touch the ball (which certainly limits any offense) then why was that player even in the game?

Afterall, many of you defend the coach by saying he isn't missing the shots and that's true. But there is one thing he certainly is in charge of and that is who touches the ball. Last time I looked it was the coach who determined who the five guys on the court were. If a player isn't on the floor, he can't very well touch it.

We have already seen on numerous occasions that Marshall is certainly not bashful about taking a player out of the game and reading him the riot act on the sideline and then sitting him down. So why would he leave Mekel in if this was true? What does Marshall expect Matt to do with the ball then if PJ then is in hiding and the two other guys are not open?

This has been a most trying season for everyone and patience is very thin for us all. Perhaps all of us to include players, fans, and coaches have a little growing up to do.

[ShockerFever]

Anyways, any truth to the rumor that GM didn't shake hands with ISU's coach last night?

Marshall shook hands with McKenna as the game ended last night and quickly pulled a Bobby Knight and turned around to exit the building. He didn't shake hands with any of the other coaches or any of the ISU players. To me, that reeked of sore loser and bad sportsmanship. It's one of the many reasons I hate Bobby Knight.

I know coach is frustrated to the extreme and everything, but for 60 seconds swallow your pill and be a professional, exchange good games, and shake the players' hands.

I thought that was kinda crappy.

[proshox]

Gal's play since the return of Matt has been poor. He has had a good five minutes here and there, but they have been sandwiched between long periods of non-effective floor play. To his credit, I think his defense last night was borderline sensational. I also think he got "screwed" on the one foul call when he was in the paint, moving his feet, and his hands were straight up.. One more note about last night: Before Gal's missed free throw a fellow female fan jinxed him more perfectly than any broadcaster could ever hope for..

The big problem is that Gal is not a SG and he has not matured into a player that understands risk vs. reward in late game situations (especially when the clock ifactored in). I think he sometimes gets caught between being aggressive and knowing he shouldn't be and that actually causes the turnover (see the dribbling turnover when crossed half-court - I think he wanted to keep going, instead he hesitated, stopped and got trapped). I am not sure what the short term solution would be - his "upside" is at the one, but the team and coach have made it clear Matt B. is the full-time point guard. This team seems to get two guys playing well in every game and then a bunch of others under achieving. The last few games it has been Matt and some other guy filling the role. Marshall has to find a way to make Matt and Gal comfortable with playing off of each other. Gal has created for Matt a few times and the reverse is rare / this team can't work and probably will not work until the find a way to make each other better.

[Awesome Sauce Malone]

Mekel has been horrible since Day 1. It's sad when even the coach has given up on him. I don't know why anyone is surprised that this conversation is being had. The only thing I'm surprised about is that this thread didn't start 3 months ago. I hope GM gets rid of everybody. I think there is a good chance of that happening.

Anyways, any truth to the rumor that GM didn't shake hands with ISU's coach last night? If so, that's pretty classy. I'm still on the GM bandwagon, but that is bad, if it's true.

One more thing while I'm hot. I could maybe, maybe understand losing a 21 point lead throughout the course of an entire game. But 21-0 run in less than 5 minutes. Come on! If that isn't giving up, I don't know what is. Actually, if saying, "only 2 more weeks left" isn't giving up, I don't know what is.

Any truth to the rumor that a player was mocking GM towards the end of regulation. Is that why he had such a memorable meltdown? Somebody please explain these vicious rumors.

Welcome to the board. For future reference know what you are talking about before posting.

k thnx

[shockball]

HCGM was shaking hands with McKenna as the final horn sounded.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

I saw him shake McKenna's hand. It was right at the buzzer and before they players lined up.