2024-25 NOMINATIONS: "Cone of Shame"

[WuShock Reaper]

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[Aargh]

At least losing by 30+ to Florida isn't brutality.

[SubGod22]

At least losing by 30+ to Florida isn't brutality.

It's worse

[BostonWu]

It's worse

What's worse - 5th worse loss ever to Florida or losing a close one to Alcorn?

[SubGod22]

What's worse - 5th worse loss ever to Florida or losing a close one to Alcorn?

They're both beyond brutal

[Kung Wu]

What's worse - 5th worse loss ever to Florida or losing a close one to Alcorn?

Getting beat down by 30+ to the eventual National Champion is not okay but not the worst thing ever in a semi-rebuilding year. It's on par with losing your wallet and finding out the thief ran up $5k of credit card debt. You'll recover from it, it's embarrassing, it's gonna take work to dig out of the problem.

Losing to Alcorn State is NEVER okay, is the worse thing ever, should never happen, and is 100% your fault. Like getting your brand new Lexus stolen while warming it up and finding out you had a one day gap in insurance coverage after changing insurance companies and you accidentally told both companies the wrong days to start and stop coverage.

[ShockTalk]

Getting beat down by 30+ to the eventual National Champion is not okay but not the worst thing ever in a semi-rebuilding year. It's on par with losing your wallet and finding out the thief ran up $5k of credit card debt. You'll recover from it, it's embarrassing, it's gonna take work to dig out of the problem.

Losing to Alcorn State is NEVER okay, is the worse thing ever, should never happen, and is 100% your fault. Like getting your brand new Lexus stolen while warming it up and finding out you had a one day gap in insurance coverage after changing insurance companies and you accidentally told both companies the wrong days to start and stop coverage.

Semi-rebuilding year? I know I'm not up on the new verbiage of "class" identification yet.

We have the following that was listed at the beginning of the school year:

1 Grad Student who probably will be allowed to play next year due to injury, if he can physically and/or if he even wants to have another year.

2 "Fifth Year" as the class identifier.

1 Redshirt Senior.

5 Seniors who may or may not be back.

And last, anyone or more who may transfer out for any reason.

"Re-building Year" may be most years now of days.

[Stickboy46]

Semi-rebuilding year? I know I'm not up on the new verbiage of "class" identification yet.

We have the following that was listed at the beginning of the school year:

1 Grad Student who probably will be allowed to play next year due to injury, if he can physically and/or if he even wants to have another year.

2 "Fifth Year" as the class identifier.

1 Redshirt Senior.

5 Seniors who may or may not be back.

And last, anyone or more who may transfer out for any reason.

"Re-building Year" may be most years now of days.

Yea, this isn't a rebuilding year .. this is a make or break year.

[Kung Wu]

Semi-rebuilding year? I know I'm not up on the new verbiage of "class" identification yet.
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"Re-building Year" may be most years now of days.

The way I see it, new coaches will still take 3 years initially, just like juco. First year is a super short recruiting cycle and a ton of last coach's players. Second year is a massive rebuild and still relying on last guy's recruits. Third year no excuses.

After that it's a two year cycle: one year rebuild, one year reload cycle. Unless you are a perennial top 25 team, then you just keep reloading.

[1972Shocker]

Yea, this isn't a rebuilding year .. this is a make or break year.

Even if this year is a resounding success, the Shocks will be back to square 1 next year. The concept of building a program is no longer viable apparently. The game now is buying a program and not that many athletic departments can play that game and many, if not most of the perennial powers were already doing that in the shadows. Now it's out in the open for all to see.

[Dan]

since we can't buy players, we have to find the P4 castoffs with potential and the low D1 or D2/JUCO standouts looking for a bigger stage. That's the only way to build now.

[WuShock Reaper]

AND

[WuShock Reaper]

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/42860810/mens-college-basketball-2024-25-uconn-kentucky-kansas-duke

" If you could have ONE preseason prediction do-over, what would it be?
"Medcalf: I would have had more confidence in Memphis. When Penny Hardaway fired most of his staff prior to the start of the 2024-25 campaign, it seemed as if the program was influx. But the additions of Mike Davis and Nolan Smith has clearly elevated a team that started 7-1 with wins over UConn and Michigan State. Plus, P.J. Haggerty (22.3 PPG, 42 percent from beyond the arc entering Sunday) -- who is at his third school -- is playing like an All-American. I'm not sure how far Memphis will go in the postseason, but the Tigers look like an NCAA tournament team with a strong backcourt that's already helped this program exceed early expectations."

[Aargh]

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...ky-kansas-duke
" If you could have ONE preseason prediction do-over, what would it be?
"Medcalf: I would have had more confidence in Memphis. When Penny Hardaway fired most of his staff prior to the start of the 2024-25 campaign, it seemed as if the program was influx. But the additions of Mike Davis and Nolan Smith has clearly elevated a team that started 7-1 with wins over UConn and Michigan State. Plus, P.J. Haggerty (22.3 PPG, 42 percent from beyond the arc entering Sunday) -- who is at his third school -- is playing like an All-American. I'm not sure how far Memphis will go in the postseason, but the Tigers look like an NCAA tournament team with a strong backcourt that's already helped this program exceed early expectations."

I think I see a problem with all the success Haggerty is having. It takes away from all the rest of the team, who thought they were all auditioning for a good spot in the NBA draft. Haggerty is hogging the stats and not letting them get theirs. Prima donnas don't like being role players even when they're in the starting lineup.

[WuShock Reaper]

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