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  • Originally posted by GOSHOX1 View Post
    Marshall makes them practice in weighted vest? Haven't heard that before
    Gotta have some way to make the best better
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    Who else posts fake **** all day in order to maintain the acrimony? Wingnuts, that's who.

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    • Top 10 overlooked matchup nightmares - By Seth Greenberg | ESPN.com

      6. Fred VanVleet | G | Wichita State Shockers
      Key stat: VanVleet and Syracuse guard Tyler Ennis are the only players with at least 100 assists and 40 steals while shooting 40 percent from 3-point range this season


      Wichita State is undefeated this season, and for good reason. It's a talented, well-coached, hard-playing team that competes to win. The Shockers have depth, size, skill and one of the best point guards in college basketball in VanVleet. He reminds me of former Miami Hurricanes guard Shane Larkin. VanVleet controls the pace of the game, makes excellent decisions and sees all five defenders off the spread ball screen. He has a 4.32-to-1 assist-to-turnover ratio, which ranks No. 2 in the country.


      VanVleet can hit the 3-pointer (42.3 percent) if the defender goes under, and has a number of different layups when he turns the corner to score. Gregg Marshall gives VanVleet freedom to make plays, and VanVleet delivers. It’s hard to speed him up, and he’s at his very best at the end of games. VanVleet makes sure the Shockers are connected offensively and defensively, a major reason why they have a legitimate shot to run the table and earn a No. 1 seed.



      Every night across America, coaches are devising game plans for their next opponent. And while they scout an entire team -- not just an individual -- sometimes there’s a player just too good not to be the focus of their attention.
      Last edited by HarpBros; January 29, 2014, 01:57 PM. Reason: siting source
      "Valley-shaking, nation-waking 29-game win streak." - Paul Suellentrop, The Wichita Eagle

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        • Am I crazy or does FVV seem to have hit somewhat of a wall the last few games? Which of course means that he's still played better than 80% of PG's in the country (as a sophomore). I dunno, his decision making just doesn't seem as sharp to me as earlier in the year.

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          • Originally posted by pie n eye View Post
            Am I crazy or does FVV seem to have hit somewhat of a wall the last few games? Which of course means that he's still played better than 80% of PG's in the country (as a sophomore). I dunno, his decision making just doesn't seem as sharp to me as earlier in the year.
            The scout is out. The team and Fred will adjust.

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            • Read the following article recently on an American Airlines trip; draw whatever comparisons you like. Fred may not play in ‘The League’, however he displays many characteristics of a “Natural Leader”.

              "The thing about a leader is they have to be not afraid — not afraid of success and not afraid of failure"

              Last edited by WstateU; February 6, 2014, 05:23 PM.
              "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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              • Turn on the nightly college basketball highlights show, and it won't take long to hear the names of the 2013-14 season's most popular stars. Andrew Wiggins, Jabari Parker, Doug McDermott, Marcus Smart...
                I have come here to chew bubblegum and kickass ... and I'm all out of bubblegum.

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                • From the SI post about Fred that Paul S linked today, an interesting comparison:

                  “I think he’s better than Armstead, because he can make everyone around him better,” Missouri State coach Paul Lusk said.

                  Edit: that same piece cited "Win Shares," one of the advanced metrics (basically, it's the basketball version of "Wins Above Replacement," a Bill James stat) that some people now use to evaluate a player's individual contribution, and it said that FVV had a 4.6 Win Share rating, which is way up there -- by comparison, Doug McDermott had a 4.5 Win Share rating. And we all know Doug is the greatest thing since sliced bread, which must mean that Fred is the greatest thing since sliced bread with peanut butter on top.

                  By the way, pie, I'm also noticing that Fred is having a somewhat tougher time of it in recent games. I agree that he's likely been scouted -- that's life in the Valley -- and will need to adjust, which he should be able to do. But I also wonder if the number of minutes he plays may be starting to catch up with him just a bit. This is also a workload he hasn't experienced before.
                  Last edited by WSUwatcher; February 7, 2014, 12:09 AM.

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                  • I think the team is just wearing down a bit as the season grinds on. FVV isn't playing at the unbelievable level he was playing earlier, but he's still putting W's on the board.

                    Potential 3-year AA. Did Carr do that?

                    I just compared FVV to Carr. With what they each do or did at the position they play, I think it's a reasonable comparison.
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                    • Originally posted by Cdizzle View Post
                      The scout is out. The team and Fred will adjust.
                      I would really like to see some new twists on our 8-10 second clock running down offense.
                      I am sure HCGM and staff will come up with some adjustments for the Dance.
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                      • I hadn't seen this one posted anywhere else here and it's a good one on Fred.
                        "We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. As the general manager, I just can't figure out where else to play." -Pat Williams

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                        • Wichita State defense prepares for high-scoring Northern Iowa

                          CEDAR FALLS, Iowa — Wichita State guard Fred VanVleet prefers to win by a bunch of points and it usually works out. But since things aren’t always going to go that way, he saw the benefit in Wednesday’s seven-point win at Indiana State.

                          The Shockers needed to make plays in pressure situations for the first time since an overtime win at Missouri State on Jan. 11. Indiana State never trailed by more than seven points in the final 10 minutes and got within two in the final two minutes. Dealing with that scenario is rare for WSU in Missouri Valley Conference play.

                          “If you go a long while without being in those situations, you might get rusty,” VanVleet said. “I don’t feel like that was a problem. I feel like we’re well-trained. When you’re trying to play for championships … you’re going to have to know how to play in those situations.”
                          Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/2014/02/07/327...#storylink=cpy

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                          • This is Fred's first year as the man. So he is playing more minutes than last year. He also doesnt have a backup. I'm not sure if he is hitting a wall, but Im sure he is still aduysting a bit to the volume of a college basketball season. Next year he will be even better!
                            "When life hands you lemons, make lemonade." Better have some sugar and water too, or else your lemonade will suck!

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                            • Originally posted by ShockerPrez View Post
                              This is Fred's first year as the man. So he is playing more minutes than last year. He also doesnt have a backup. I'm not sure if he is hitting a wall, but Im sure he is still aduysting a bit to the volume of a college basketball season. Next year he will be even better!
                              Also, he's seeing new defenses for the first time. In a bad game, he got foiled maybe five times and still had a stat line most point guards would love to average
                              "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
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                              • His interview before the uni game was fantastic

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