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  • Originally posted by ShockRef View Post

    The new NCAA.
    Cheating is not only condoned... its encouraged.
    Between ignoring obvious examples occurring at multiple P5 and allowing the transfer portal debacle, cheating has never been more profitable for the KU, Arizona and LSU's of the world.
    Get used to it cause the bags of cash are rolling in and once the green lettuce of salvation starts flowing, nothing (or no one) can stop it.

    That is all.
    Unless we get Bezos or Elon Musk to adopt us, we will have to rely on Koch and a couple of others to keep up, Ref.


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    • college basketball as we grew to love and enjoy us dead.

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      • Originally posted by abdullah_sharif View Post
        college basketball as we grew to love and enjoy us dead.
        Agree. Honestly it's rather frightening. I don't know how we compete in the new NIL/portal era. I really don't know if we'll ever be competitive on a national stage again. I know this. Its impossible with the current leadership.

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        • Originally posted by abdullah_sharif View Post
          college basketball as we grew to love and enjoy us dead.
          I’ve been telling you all that for the last two years. I make some boneheaded predictions such as lthat our baseball team can hit, but I’m taking credit for this one.
          Last edited by shoxlax; April 5, 2022, 10:42 AM.

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          • Originally posted by shoxlax View Post

            Unless we get Bezos or Elon Musk to adopt us, we will have to rely on Koch and a couple of others to keep up, Ref.

            Lax,
            It is now basically an arms race.
            Those who have the financial backing (Booster $$$) have the resources to peddle influence and garner favor where others who play by the rules get squeezed out.
            And its about to get even worse, if that was possible.

            Keep in mind the NCAA and their gang of minions lost bazillions of cash when the 2020 show was cancelled.
            Bazillions.
            They made some of it back last year, but nothing like the usual March cash cow.
            Well it certainly was a return to normalcy this year and the NCAA has its usual alliance with the P5 power brokers back operating at full capacity.

            It is what it is.

            That is all.
            Above all, make the right call.

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            • Originally posted by BostonWu View Post

              Agree. Honestly it's rather frightening. I don't know how we compete in the new NIL/portal era. I really don't know if we'll ever be competitive on a national stage again. I know this. Its impossible with the current leadership.
              I’ve said this before…if we have to choose between irrelevance and rolling in the mud to stay relevant and becoming a national contender, I know what I’m choosing every day of the week. And I don’t want to be irrelevant.

              Not everyone agrees with that, and that’s fine. But these choices are the reality we face.
              "In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming

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              • In the words of 70s Billy Joel, only the good die young.

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                • The ONLY thing to bring back a semblance of awesome college experience is for the NBA to champion a national division system, just like the rest of the world.

                  Kiss the NCAA goodbye. Title IX is left in the dust; that federal law has no meat anymore given the new NIL situation.

                  Division A = NBA Championship League (NBA as we know it)
                  Division 1 = NBA One (next level pro -- probably similar to euro teams)
                  Division 2 = NBA Two
                  Division 3 = NBA Three (and so on)
                  ...


                  All colleges field a team that can climb the ladder -- even to the NBA ranks if they were good enough. They will also relegate themselves.

                  Colleges and pro/semi-pro squads will fight it out. The advantage of going to a college vs a pro/semi-pro team will be free schooling while you ball. The advantage of semi-pro over college is more moolah up front (probably) but with risk of not having a degree to fall back on. All colleges will be on an equal playing ground at this point -- if you put resources toward your basketball team, you will climb the ladder. If you don't, you will fall in rank.
                  Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                  • Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
                    The ONLY thing to bring back a semblance of awesome college experience is for the NBA to champion a national division system, just like the rest of the world.

                    Kiss the NCAA goodbye. Title IX is left in the dust; that federal law has no meat anymore given the new NIL situation.

                    Division A = NBA Championship League (NBA as we know it)
                    Division 1 = NBA One (next level pro -- probably similar to euro teams)
                    Division 2 = NBA Two
                    Division 3 = NBA Three (and so on)
                    ...


                    All colleges field a team that can climb the ladder -- even to the NBA ranks if they were good enough. They will also relegate themselves.

                    Colleges and pro/semi-pro squads will fight it out. The advantage of going to a college vs a pro/semi-pro team will be free schooling while you ball. The advantage of semi-pro over college is more moolah up front (probably) but with risk of not having a degree to fall back on. All colleges will be on an equal playing ground at this point -- if you put resources toward your basketball team, you will climb the ladder. If you don't, you will fall in rank.
                    Imagine friendlies against the New York Knicks and Golden State Warriors.
                    Brummett throws, STRUCK HIM OUT! THE SHOCKERS ARE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS! AN UNBELIEVABLE STORY!

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                    • In this new era big money boosters are more vital than ever. Big problem is do we have any left? Uncle Chuck gave us a little sofa change over 2 decades ago but in the grand scheme of things really doesn't care about athletics. The court namesake has left the building. Not sure what well we're drawing from.

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                      • "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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                        • P5 Party... we're the dog.


                          "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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                          • Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View Post

                            I’ve said this before…if we have to choose between irrelevance and rolling in the mud to stay relevant and becoming a national contender, I know what I’m choosing every day of the week. And I don’t want to be irrelevant.

                            Not everyone agrees with that, and that’s fine. But these choices are the reality we face.
                            100% agree! I want to see a winner, I don't care how it's done!

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                            • Originally posted by Shock Top View Post
                              ***Time for the Shox to start cheating more***
                              If a booster gives a coat to a player, they will go on probation for a minimum 3 years. Face it, we are not KU or parts of the privileged class.

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                              • Originally posted by Ashockalypse View Post
                                I don’t know why every D-1!team isn’t openly cheating. It’s legal and you get amply rewarded for it. Whose gonna complain? KU? Ha!
                                I've kept my opinions to myself and just lurked for the most part, but at the risk of getting banned, I'm not sure that's the takeaway here. None of these guys were big time recruits who could demand money. This isn't that much better than a typical Houston, Marquette, or Texas A&M recruiting class. The truth is, the threat of a ban and top recruits running away might have been what allowed for this, as this was a pretty experienced team.

                                https://twitter.com/ChasenScott/stat...D9usMYCGnkT1eA

                                Final recruiting rankings of the main KU basketball rotation players:
                                G: Harris — No. 94
                                G: Ochai — No. 132
                                G: Braun — No. 130
                                F: Jalen Wilson — No. 53
                                C: McCormack — No. 36

                                B1: Remy — No. 84
                                B2: Lightfoot — No. 116
                                Last edited by yesimaKUfan; April 5, 2022, 11:53 AM.

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