2021-2022 NET Rankings Thread

[Stickboy46]

12/16 Update

12/16 (12/06)
5 (4) Houston
44 (59) UCF
46 (45) Cincy
57 (66) Wichita State
58 (65) Memphis
104 (131) SMU
149 (144) ECU
183 (183) Temple
226 (186) Tulane
227 (216) Tulsa
263 (279) South Florida



Others Of interest
68 (62) Oklahoma State
92 (69) Kansas State
262 (278) Missouri
1 (3) Arizona
186 (251) UNLV
179 (205) Jacksonville State
79 (68) South Alabama
268 (295) Tarleton State
196 (204) Norfolk State
95 (104) North Texas
269 (248) Alcorn State
302 (304) Prairie View


Quads so far for us

Q1: 1-1
Q2: 0-0
Q3: 2-1
Q4: 5-0

[shocker43]

Initial Rankings are out.

131 SMU
144 ECU
183 Temple
186 Tulane
216 Tulsa
279 South Florida

Others Of interest
278 Missouri
251 UNLV
205 Jacksonville State
295 Tarleton State
204 Norfolk State
248 Alcorn State
304 Prairie View

YIKES

[1972Shocker]

Current Rankings of the Not To Distant Future AAC (as of 12/05/21):

35 UAB
65 Memphis
66 Wichita State
104 North Texas
131 SMU
144 ECU
183 Temple
186 Tulane
199 Rice
201 Charlotte
216 Tulsa
226 Florida Atlantic
279 South Florida
313 UTSA

Average 12/05/21 ranking of the current MWC teams = 122.5 (Ranked 7th at the conference level)

Average 12/05/21 ranking of the 11 current AAC teams = 125.3 (Ranked 8th at the conference level - FYI former member UConn is currently #13 in the net rankings)

Average 12/05/21 ranking of the 14 future AAC teams = 167.9

Average 12/05/21 ranking of the current MVC = 177.6 (Ranked 12th at the conference level)

Average 12/05/21 ranking of the current CUSA = 186.1 (Ranked 13th at the conference level)

[ShockTalk]

Current Rankings of the Not To Distant Future AAC (as of 12/05/21):

35 UAB
65 Memphis
66 Wichita State
104 North Texas
131 SMU
144 ECU
183 Temple
186 Tulane
199 Rice
201 Charlotte
216 Tulsa
226 Florida Atlantic
279 South Florida
313 UTSA

Average 12/05/21 ranking of the current MWC teams = 122.5 (Ranked 7th at the conference level)

Average 12/05/21 ranking of the 11 current AAC teams = 125.3 (Ranked 8th at the conference level - FYI former member UConn is currently #13 in the net rankings)

Average 12/05/21 ranking of the 14 future AAC teams = 167.9

Average 12/05/21 ranking of the current MVC = 177.6 (Ranked 12th at the conference level)

Average 12/05/21 ranking of the current CUSA = 186.1 (Ranked 13th at the conference level)

Scary sh*t, ain't it.

[Woodrow]

Current Rankings of the Not To Distant Future AAC (as of 12/05/21):

35 UAB
65 Memphis
66 Wichita State
104 North Texas
131 SMU
144 ECU
183 Temple
186 Tulane
199 Rice
201 Charlotte
216 Tulsa
226 Florida Atlantic
279 South Florida
313 UTSA

Average 12/05/21 ranking of the current MWC teams = 122.5 (Ranked 7th at the conference level)

Average 12/05/21 ranking of the 11 current AAC teams = 125.3 (Ranked 8th at the conference level - FYI former member UConn is currently #13 in the net rankings)

Average 12/05/21 ranking of the 14 future AAC teams = 167.9

Average 12/05/21 ranking of the current MVC = 177.6 (Ranked 12th at the conference level)

Average 12/05/21 ranking of the current CUSA = 186.1 (Ranked 13th at the conference level)

That's disheartening.

[WuTheOne]

There is a good possibility that some of the adds to the conference will be able to raise the level of their game by being in the American conference. UTSA seems most likely to benefit, but they're so low now that moving up doesn't seem challenging.

[RoyalShock]

So the average of the six future additions is 179.7. UAB is obviously over-rated at this point in the season. But I do think once those schools realize the benefit from AAC membership, probably after a couple of recruiting cycles, we'll see their average closer to 150. If so, that would bring the AAC average down to 155, which unfortunately, still isn't very good and is a major indictment of Temple, Tulane, Tulsa and Touth Tlorida, or, err, South Florida.

Bottom line, Memphis, WSU and SMU are going to have to carry this conference at least until Temple and Tulsa get their crap together. (And I probably just cursed us to lose to both.)

[SubGod22]

I do think UAB and North Texas can be of value, especially once they're recruiting to the AAC.

Rice and Charlotte are investing, so maybe. But I'm definitely wait and see on those two.

FAU I have no real hope for.

UTSA is also investing and I think they want to be much better. Their focus has been on football over the last decade and they've created a Top 25 program. I'm willing to give them some time to make the needed investments into basketball to see what they can do. They have a longer way to go than the others, but I still have more faith in them than I do Rice and Charlotte at this point.

[Stickboy46]

Temple jumped all the way up to 133 with their win over Vandy yesterday.

Also of note: UNI has a NET ranking of 243 ... which is right on the bubble cut line .. I think they get that at large.

[Stickboy46]

updated 12/16

[SubGod22]

I was just looking at the NET this morning and while none of the teams are Houston, they're not near as bleak as many think. And these numbers are without reaping any benefits yet of moving up in conference, the investment increases that they have coming or the exposure increase that they will get.

3 - Houston
42 - Memphis
47 - SMU
84 - Wichita
88 - UCF
99 - Cincinnati
101 - Tulane
113 - Temple
177 - ECU
182 - Tulsa
241 - USF



38 - North Texas
54 - UAB
78 - Toledo (added because they're one of the schools I would have considered)
112 - Buffalo (See Toledo)
116 - Liberty (See Buffalo)
136 - FAU
181 - Charlotte
199 - ODU (I know some wanted them)
207 - Rice
219 - James Madison (see ODU)
240 - Marshall (See James Madison)
332 - UTSA


I think we all agreed that UAB was a solid add. They were pretty much universally thought of as the most logical choice as they bring a solid basketball and football program to the table.

I've always like North Texas myself but wasn't sure they'd get added because they share a market with SMU. Though SMU isn't a big deal in the market, neither in UNT, but UNT does have a strong alumni presence in the city and has potential to capitalize on that. I believe their football program is decent as well.

I thought FAU was hopeless when added and I'm not sure if this is a bit of a fluke season or if they've been building a little something down there in south Florida. There is a ton of talent in the state and maybe with a little more exposure they can keep this up and progress into a top 100 team. Even if they maintain where they're at, it's not going to hurt anyone. I've heard their football program has been decent and has potential. Time will tell there.

Charlotte wants to be good, by all accounts. Their NET ranking is a little better than I would have expected going in, but I've been taking a wait and see approach on them.

Nobody expects RIce to be great, but they're investing a ton of money and at least claim to be committed. I'd like to think they can get to a top 150 program, which is towards the bottom of the conference isn't bad.

We've all known UTSA was going to be a work in progress and was added mostly for their football success where they've built a top 25 program in less than a decade of having football. Word is they're going to be building a new arena for basketball and are now focused on building up that program since they've established football as a relevant threat. They're going to need time but based on what they did with football in short order, I'm willing to give them that shot.

I threw in a couple of others that have been talked about by some, or myself, during the process. Obviously this was after the western block fell apart. By the way, Colorado State has a NET of 27. I viewed Buffalo much like UAB in that they have a decently established program in both major sports and could get a bump from a better conference. They're also a school that wants to be better and as odd as it sounds, they think with the right luck they could be a B1G school some day in the future. I'm not sure how likely that is, but they do have good academics and solid sports. They also fit the urban profile of the AAC.

Toledo I remember mentioning in case we still wanted an Ohio presence. Ohio produces some decent talent in both major sports and Toledo seems to be one of the few MAC programs that seems to care about both of those sports and does alright. It appears that them and Buffalo wouldn't have been bad options but I don't think we really even looked at any of the MAC schools.

Liberty doesn't quite fit the urban profile of the conference, but we knew they had the money and willingness to invest in both major sports. They do have a stigma attached to them and I'm sure were never really considered even though they wanted it. They have a pretty decent following across the country, not on BYU levels, but it was something to consider. They're a great addition to CUSA.

ODU was high on some peoples lists if we were going big and they are working on out dated basketball success much like Charlotte. I'm sure had they been added they'd also get the benefit of the exposure bump as well and may not have been horrible.

James Madison is investing but they're also transitioning to FBS and were never going to be considered because of how that would look on the football side. They may have potential but I think that would have been a risk. They have been a top level FCS team but time will tell how the transition goes. It works well for some and not so great for others.

Marshall was a favorite among some in the AAC because they've had a pretty good football tradition and I know many here remember us losing to them in the tournament, but they've been pretty sporadic in basketball and they don't fit the urban profile.

All in all, we have to wait and see how the future will look, but I don't see it near as bleak as many of you, from a conference standpoint. Wichita on the other hand isn't looking so hot right now and may end up behind a half of the additions.

Regardless, there are teams that have to step up that are already in the AAC. Memphis has the talent level to be better. SMU is almost always going to be in the picture. Tulane is making progress. Temple has to get better. Tulsa may have a chance after they move on from Haith to improve. I don't get how USF remains so bad. They're a school that I believe has the potential if they can tap into it. Plus they're recruiting to a beautiful part of the country with some of the best beaches in the nation. That has to account for something.

[ShockingButTrue]

All in all, we have to wait and see how the future will look, but I don't see it near as bleak as many of you, from a conference standpoint. Wichita on the other hand isn't looking so hot right now and may end up behind a half of the additions.

Regardless, there are teams that have to step up that are already in the AAC. Memphis has the talent level to be better. SMU is almost always going to be in the picture. Tulane is making progress. Temple has to get better. Tulsa may have a chance after they move on from Haith to improve. I don't get how USF remains so bad. They're a school that I believe has the potential if they can tap into it. Plus they're recruiting to a beautiful part of the country with some of the best beaches in the nation. That has to account for something.

Have you been following WSU a long time?

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