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  • #16
    Originally posted by Shockm View Post

    We have a better reputation than UNLV and New Mexico. I’m not sure of what the result will be but it may be better than how you view your Shox as just any M/M. Some even have been considered us a Major.
    We also have a great coach! He will get some quality players and make the necessary adjustments.
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    • #17
      With immediate playing time available, I expect Marshall can get some decent grad transfers at the 1 and 5, which are the two most obvious weaknesses.

      Then there's the annual search for a Fr PG, which isn't helped by the late start. A couple weeks ago, recruiting a Fr PG would have been insane. A grad trfr and a JuCo PG doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. Marshall's track record recruiting Fr PG's is not stellar.

      I think we'll end up "OK" at the post

      Etienne and Dennis will get LOTS of minutes, but that's a good thing. I think Bilau will be the backup at PF and that could (that's COULD) be a very good thing.

      JB "could play" PG, even though that was not his position, neither was backup SF. GS could not play PG. Fernandes had his moments late in the season and will probably have a solid career at a lower-level program.

      Repeating this year's finish in the conference will be a challenge, but it seems doable.
      The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
      We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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      • #18
        Honestly, I’ll just be happy if we’re playing basketball. I’d put the odds at less than 50% chance of that at this point. Anyone more optimistic than that?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by shock-it-to-me View Post
          Honestly, I’ll just be happy if we’re playing basketball. I’d put the odds at less than 50% chance of that at this point. Anyone more optimistic than that?
          The season will begin on time. The virus will weaken this summer and we will have successfull drug regimens soon.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by WeWillShockU View Post

            The season will begin on time. The virus will weaken this summer and we will have successfull drug regimens soon.
            There is absolutely nothing that indicates the virus will weaken with warmer weather. Flu and cold viruses are negatively affected by warm weather and higher humidity. This is not a flu or cold virus. If it were seasonal, there would be no outbreaks south of the equator. There are fewer outbreaks south of the equator. There are also fewer people south of the equator.
            The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
            We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Shockm View Post

              We have a better reputation than UNLV and New Mexico. I’m not sure of what the result will be but it may be better than how you view your Shox as just any M/M. Some even have been considered us a Major.
              I didn't do a good job of quoting, but the text was from WuShock Reaper's post above, which was from the article he posted from John Vaccaro in bustingbrackets.com. It was in post #10 above.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Aargh View Post

                There is absolutely nothing that indicates the virus will weaken with warmer weather. Flu and cold viruses are negatively affected by warm weather and higher humidity. This is not a flu or cold virus. If it were seasonal, there would be no outbreaks south of the equator. There are fewer outbreaks south of the equator. There are also fewer people south of the equator.


                While it has not been peer reviewed it appears there is evidence that it will be diminished by warm and humid weather.

                Higher temperatures affect survival of new coronavirus, pathologist says
                https://news.yahoo.com/higher-temperatures-affect-survival-coronavirus-192444879.html
                Research from a laboratory-grown copy of the coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) that causes the COVID-19 illness shows that heat affects the virus and impacts its behavior, a top pathologist said new research has shown. But other infectious disease experts aren't yet convinced."In cold environments, there is longer virus survival than warm ones," Hong Kong University pathology professor John Nicholls told AccuWeather exclusively.Nicholls and colleagues from a team at Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzhou, China, previously produced a study, which was published in February and has yet to be peer-reviewed, noting the effect of heat. Their research is based on one of the world's first lab-grown copies of SARS-CoV-2."Temperature could significantly change COVID-19 transmission," the authors note in the study. They also pointed out that the "virus is highly sensitive to high temperature." Transmission electron microscope image shows SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, isolated from a patient in the U.S. Virus particles are emerging from the surface of cells cultured in the lab. The spikes on the outer edge of the virus particles give coronaviruses their name, crown-like. (NIAID-RML) On March 11, the World Health Organization officially declared the coronavirus outbreak a global pandemic. This is the first pandemic in 11 years, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).CLICK HERE FOR THE FREE ACCUWEATHER APPOne recent research paper supported this assertion by pointing out the proximity of the major hotspots. The authors of the study, which was published last week, wrote that COVID-19 "has established significant community spread in cities and regions only along a narrow east-west distribution roughly along the 30-50 North latitude corridor at consistently similar weather patterns (5-11 degrees C [41 to 51 F] and 47-79 percent humidity)." The paper's authors used the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts ERA-Interim 1000mb average temperatures from November 2018 to March 2019, the most recent data available for this time period, to show the temperate zone where the major SARS-CoV-2 hotspots have appeared so far. The variation from year to year, in this case, is minimal; however, meteorologists would typically use the 30-year normal data for this type of analysis. John Nicholls made a similar image using the same data, which appears above. (Image provided by John Nicholls.) "Notably, during the same time, COVID-19 failed to spread significantly to countries immediately south of China," the paper notes. "The number of patients and reported deaths in Southeast Asia is much less when compared to more temperate regions noted ... The association between temperature in the cities affected with COVID-19 deserves special attention."Some have suggested the possibility that weather factors might affect the virus - particularly the intensity and amount of hours of sunshine as well as heat and humidity. "Obviously, the virus is something we've never dealt with before, but if we look at other viruses ... they all had their peak during the cold season," said AccuWeather Founder and CEO Dr. Joel N. Myers."The statistics all show that they breed and survive longer when it's cold and dry," Myers said. "So, when it's warmer and more humid and there's a lot of sunshine, the statistics on all of the others show a virus is less lethal, it spreads less efficiently and less effectively among humans."Dr. Joseph Fair, a virologist, epidemiologist and infectious disease specialist, suggested sunshine is a critical factor in subduing the virus."It really doesn't have anything to do with the warmth, but it has to do with the length of the day and the exposure to sunlight, which inactivates the virus through UV light," Fair, who is an MSNBC science contributor, said during an appearance on the network. "We expect a dip in infections as we would see with the cold and flu in the spring and summer months.But, he cautioned, "The science is still out. We can assume this will follow typical other coronavirus cases. We can expect a dip in the summer. But that doesn't mean that we will be out of the woods ... Everyone in the scientific and public health community expects it to be back in the fall and we expect to be in this for quite some time."There is a range of opinions on the matter in the infectious disease community. Some infectious disease experts have warned that unlike cases of seasonal flu, which tend to decline in the spring and summer months, SARS-CoV-2 will not behave in the same manner.Marc Lipsitch, professor of epidemiology at Harvard's T.H. Chan School of Public Health, recently posted an analysis in which he said that warmer weather will "probably not" significantly slow the spread of the disease. A mosso de esquadra police officer stands on the closed off road near Igualada, Spain, Friday, March 13, 2020. Over 60,000 people awoke Friday in four towns near Barcelona confined to their homes and with police blocking roads. (AP Photo/Joan Mateu) "I don't know what to say about the impact of weather," Dr. Bryan Lewis, a professor at the Biocomplexity Institute at the University of Virginia, told AccuWeather. He added, "We don't really know, and there are reasons to suspect that it [weather] may not have a huge impact on it."One thing the infectious disease experts are all unable to evaluate: "Once the virus leaves the body, human factors are more unpredictable," Nicholls told AccuWeather.Those variables could include people going to work with symptoms rather than staying home, the inability of countries or regions to have effective screening tests or isolation facilities, or health care workers not having access to personal protective equipment because of supply shortages, among other possibilities."We could call these the ‘bozo factors,'" Nicholls said. Those types of unpredictable, unmeasurable variables would mean "all bets are off as to whether the hoped-for decrease in summer will eventuate."Additional reporting by Jesse Ferrell.Keep checking back on AccuWeather.com and stay tuned to the AccuWeather Network on DirecTV, Frontier and Verizon Fios.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Signman View Post



                  While it has not been peer reviewed it appears there is evidence that it will be diminished by warm and humid weather.

                  Higher temperatures affect survival of new coronavirus, pathologist says
                  https://news.yahoo.com/higher-temperatures-affect-survival-coronavirus-192444879.html
                  Research from a laboratory-grown copy of the coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) that causes the COVID-19 illness shows that heat affects the virus and impacts its behavior, a top pathologist said new research has shown. But other infectious disease experts aren't yet convinced."In cold environments, there is longer virus survival than warm ones," Hong Kong University pathology professor John Nicholls told AccuWeather exclusively.Nicholls and colleagues from a team at Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzhou, China, previously produced a study, which was published in February and has yet to be peer-reviewed, noting the effect of heat. Their research is based on one of the world's first lab-grown copies of SARS-CoV-2."Temperature could significantly change COVID-19 transmission," the authors note in the study. They also pointed out that the "virus is highly sensitive to high temperature." Transmission electron microscope image shows SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, isolated from a patient in the U.S. Virus particles are emerging from the surface of cells cultured in the lab. The spikes on the outer edge of the virus particles give coronaviruses their name, crown-like. (NIAID-RML) On March 11, the World Health Organization officially declared the coronavirus outbreak a global pandemic. This is the first pandemic in 11 years, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).CLICK HERE FOR THE FREE ACCUWEATHER APPOne recent research paper supported this assertion by pointing out the proximity of the major hotspots. The authors of the study, which was published last week, wrote that COVID-19 "has established significant community spread in cities and regions only along a narrow east-west distribution roughly along the 30-50 North latitude corridor at consistently similar weather patterns (5-11 degrees C [41 to 51 F] and 47-79 percent humidity)." The paper's authors used the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts ERA-Interim 1000mb average temperatures from November 2018 to March 2019, the most recent data available for this time period, to show the temperate zone where the major SARS-CoV-2 hotspots have appeared so far. The variation from year to year, in this case, is minimal; however, meteorologists would typically use the 30-year normal data for this type of analysis. John Nicholls made a similar image using the same data, which appears above. (Image provided by John Nicholls.) "Notably, during the same time, COVID-19 failed to spread significantly to countries immediately south of China," the paper notes. "The number of patients and reported deaths in Southeast Asia is much less when compared to more temperate regions noted ... The association between temperature in the cities affected with COVID-19 deserves special attention."Some have suggested the possibility that weather factors might affect the virus - particularly the intensity and amount of hours of sunshine as well as heat and humidity. "Obviously, the virus is something we've never dealt with before, but if we look at other viruses ... they all had their peak during the cold season," said AccuWeather Founder and CEO Dr. Joel N. Myers."The statistics all show that they breed and survive longer when it's cold and dry," Myers said. "So, when it's warmer and more humid and there's a lot of sunshine, the statistics on all of the others show a virus is less lethal, it spreads less efficiently and less effectively among humans."Dr. Joseph Fair, a virologist, epidemiologist and infectious disease specialist, suggested sunshine is a critical factor in subduing the virus."It really doesn't have anything to do with the warmth, but it has to do with the length of the day and the exposure to sunlight, which inactivates the virus through UV light," Fair, who is an MSNBC science contributor, said during an appearance on the network. "We expect a dip in infections as we would see with the cold and flu in the spring and summer months.But, he cautioned, "The science is still out. We can assume this will follow typical other coronavirus cases. We can expect a dip in the summer. But that doesn't mean that we will be out of the woods ... Everyone in the scientific and public health community expects it to be back in the fall and we expect to be in this for quite some time."There is a range of opinions on the matter in the infectious disease community. Some infectious disease experts have warned that unlike cases of seasonal flu, which tend to decline in the spring and summer months, SARS-CoV-2 will not behave in the same manner.Marc Lipsitch, professor of epidemiology at Harvard's T.H. Chan School of Public Health, recently posted an analysis in which he said that warmer weather will "probably not" significantly slow the spread of the disease. A mosso de esquadra police officer stands on the closed off road near Igualada, Spain, Friday, March 13, 2020. Over 60,000 people awoke Friday in four towns near Barcelona confined to their homes and with police blocking roads. (AP Photo/Joan Mateu) "I don't know what to say about the impact of weather," Dr. Bryan Lewis, a professor at the Biocomplexity Institute at the University of Virginia, told AccuWeather. He added, "We don't really know, and there are reasons to suspect that it [weather] may not have a huge impact on it."One thing the infectious disease experts are all unable to evaluate: "Once the virus leaves the body, human factors are more unpredictable," Nicholls told AccuWeather.Those variables could include people going to work with symptoms rather than staying home, the inability of countries or regions to have effective screening tests or isolation facilities, or health care workers not having access to personal protective equipment because of supply shortages, among other possibilities."We could call these the ‘bozo factors,'" Nicholls said. Those types of unpredictable, unmeasurable variables would mean "all bets are off as to whether the hoped-for decrease in summer will eventuate."Additional reporting by Jesse Ferrell.Keep checking back on AccuWeather.com and stay tuned to the AccuWeather Network on DirecTV, Frontier and Verizon Fios.
                  Thanks for sharing. This is the first I've heard of that research.
                  The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
                  We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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                  • #24
                    Personally I am putting my expectations on hold until I see what kind of recruiting haul there is. We have a couple of real nice pieces with Etienne and Dennis, but that won't be enough without at least one more solid contributed that can be counted on every night. Wade is a nice complimentary player and the kind of guy you want out there every night as well.
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                    • #25
                      Dexter, Tyson, and Wade are a solid base. All three have the basketball skills and athleticism to compete in the American.

                      Asbjorn just seems like a great teammate. I still think he has some potential to contribute next year but obviously isn’t going to be a main cog and that’s ok as long as he is bought in to his role.

                      Poor Bear showed improvement on defense and attention to detail this year. He needs another leap plus maybe a little more this offseason in order to be a main contributor.

                      Bilau and JaDun Michael are the wild cards. I have zero expectations for Michael who will be a true freshman. However, Burton, Stevenson, Etienne, Sherfield, McDuffie, and Dexter are all Freshman we’ve seen contribute immediately so it’s not out of the realm of possibilities.

                      Bilau, on the other hand, as a RS frosh I think it’s ok to hope that he can contribute immediately. I really liked what I saw at Shocker Madness and the exhibition in terms of attacking the glass and ability to guard multiple positions. That alone will make him valuable if he can stay out of foul trouble and limit turnovers. He also hit a three, made at least one nice drive and finish, and good passes out of the post so there’s hopefully more to his game.

                      We need a lot to fill the team out. Pretty much every position. The most important is PG. Luckily we’re in on a bunch of guys who look like they could step in and play day 1. They’re going to have to.

                      It probably goes without saying that guards are easier to find than big men. Statistically speaking there are just more humans in that size range. As much as I liked all of the departing guards I think it is possible, if not likely, that we can find equal or greater talent to replace them. I could be wrong. The new guys won’t have the benefit of being in the program multiple years but obviously that wasn’t much of a positive to the guys who left.

                      I’ve been labeled a sunshine pumper, I know. I’m ok with that. It beats joining the other crowd. So take it with a grain of salt that I’m cautiously optimistic we won’t fall too far off a cliff next year. It’s all TBD.
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                      • #26
                        I think Wade is undersized as a PF in this league, but it could have been what I was seeing was the typical (with some players) difficulty in adjusting to basketball 'at this level'. I think Wade would have been a better SF, but Dex has that position nailed down.

                        I hope the people who say Wade will be a good player for us are correct, and I also hope he can make some good strides in the offseason. I did not see anything during the season that would make me think he is going to be a major contributor for us.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by revenge_of_shocka_khan View Post
                          I think Wade is undersized as a PF in this league, but it could have been what I was seeing was the typical (with some players) difficulty in adjusting to basketball 'at this level'. I think Wade would have been a better SF, but Dex has that position nailed down.

                          I hope the people who say Wade will be a good player for us are correct, and I also hope he can make some good strides in the offseason. I did not see anything during the season that would make me think he is going to be a major contributor for us.
                          Most of our JUCO guys made a big jump in their 2nd year. Considering that Wade was decent in year 1, I expect him to be pretty good next year. He was basically playing off instincts this year.
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                          • #28
                            I have zero expectations for this team. I think Coach will need/deserve a couple of seasons to right this mess, and that is going to take a season or two. I feel like by then, he will know whether he wants to coach kids of today's nature, or go into broadcasting or something else. My expectation is that this season is going to shed a lot of light on the state of college basketball, not just at Hillside and 21st, but across the nation.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by revenge_of_shocka_khan View Post
                              I think Wade is undersized as a PF in this league, but it could have been what I was seeing was the typical (with some players) difficulty in adjusting to basketball 'at this level'. I think Wade would have been a better SF, but Dex has that position nailed down.

                              I hope the people who say Wade will be a good player for us are correct, and I also hope he can make some good strides in the offseason. I did not see anything during the season that would make me think he is going to be a major contributor for us.
                              You mean his contributions this year including almost single handedly winning one of our last few games gives you no indication that he can make a major contribution next year?
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                              • #30
                                Just as a hypothetical, do you think we would have still had as many transfers if we had made a run to the sweet 16?
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