Wichita State at Memphis Game Thread

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

There are plenty more talented players on this team. They’re just younger so SHJ gets more of the benefit of the doubt.

[proshox]

BOBB - when I watch WSU attempt to execute the match-up zone I see tentativeness and breakdowns. I believe that is mainly a result of low use of the zone.

IMO, if you are going to rarely use zone it would be important to keep it as simple as possible to avoid unnecessary breakdowns and ensure high activity of the zone. At the end of the day, the zone is used to either protect fouls or give the opposing offense something to disrupt their rythym. I don’t think there is much value in over complicating the zone principles.

Find the minimum effective dose of zone style.

[im4wsu]

You have brought this up before. Can you explain the difference between our zone and a standard 2-3 zone? Asking for a friend. I'll hang up and listen.

As I understand, our "Fresno" zone has the guards on kind of a rubber band with one being in the FT circle and the other on the ball, So if SHJ is on the ball, Torres is in the circle preventing a pass to the middle. When the ball swings, SHJ goes to the circle and Torres plays the ball. There are many nuances which involve the forward on the side of the ball and whether the pass on the wing is below or above the foul line, but you can usually see this "rubber band action" of the two guards in the initial first several passes by the offense.

In the 2-3 zone, the guards stay essentially level and just move in tandem from side to side as the ball moves.

Please, coaches, correct me if I'm off base here.

[ShockerFever]

In his last 7 games, SHJ has 18 assists, 18 turnovers, just 2 sterals and amazingly one block. 34% FG, 30% 2-pt and 37% 3-pt.

Definitely a guy that needs to be logging lots of minutes for the future. Definitely a guy the offense needs to go through.

[ShockTalk]

Helped a tad with that 3pt shooting that you picked up the Baylor game for the 7th game (6-11).

In fact, taking that single game out of his .349 season 3pt shooting drops it to .320 for the other 12 games.

[BOBB]

Watching UCF vs. UCONN. Seeing how effective a simple 2-3 zone can be... why HCGM can’t just simplify that use of zone so that it doesn’t look like mass confusion every time we go into it...

You have brought this up before. Can you explain the difference between our zone and a standard 2-3 zone? Asking for a friend. I'll hang up and listen.

[Dan]

How does that compare to our other guards?

[im4wsu]

In his last 7 games, SHJ has 18 assists, 18 turnovers, just 2 sterals and amazingly one block. 34% FG, 30% 2-pt and 37% 3-pt.

[pinstripers]

SHJ is the best shooter on the team when he takes good shots. He doesn't recognize which ones those are, unfortunately

[WuDrWu]

If your team is a top 20 type team, I'll agree. On this team, with this talent, you couldn't be more wrong.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

SHJ should not be playing more than 5 minutes off the bench. He’s a major liability.

[Topshock]

A like is not enough for Aargh's post. Absolutely100% on point

[IndianaShocker]

FadedCrown likely not. Low IQ maybe. Lack of effort in the classroom maybe. Someone takes him out of high school if he would've been a qualifier.

[Kung Wu]

Assuming that was sarcasm, but on this board, its hard to tell. :bball_spin:

I think you were reading way too much into my question. :) Earlier this summer we had some SN interviews with Mike Kennedy and other Shocker personalities -- I don't think you were active when those were going on. The Shocker community definitely keeps their eye on SN and that's a good thing, not a bad thing.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

They are no longer looking to be impressed.