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  • There's a new story on FVV out on The Athletic...





    I think you can get a free trial period and The Athletic is top notch anyway.

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    • Beyond dynamite. The Athletic is very much worth it.

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      • I've gone on record with my endorsement of the Athletic. That and $3.13 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks...

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        • https://sports.yahoo.com/fred-vanvle...032837026.html 7 stitches and 1 tooth!
          I have come here to chew bubblegum and kickass ... and I'm all out of bubblegum.

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          • this series is over. fvv is the champ like we always knew it. remember how he crushed ku?

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            • Horn28Clem30
              Horn28Clem30 commented
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              This series is most definitely not over. Durant back tonight, still the best team in recent if not all NBA history. Gotta win 4 games, still plenty of work to do....

          • FVV is STILL breaking Shocker records!
            Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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            • Chris Bosh, Kenny Smith, and Raptors Superfan talk about FVV:

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              • C0|dB|00ded
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                “Wichita, we raise them tough there,” Griffin said. “Pound for pound, Fred is one of the toughest players we have. He may be out-sized, but you can’t out-compete him and that’s what I love about him. He represents the city well. He embodies what the city of Wichita is all about: that grit and that toughness.”

                Viagra's got nuttin' on this. Pole vaulting instead of walking the rest of the day.


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                ...:cool:

            • I haven’t kept up with this thread as much, but I’ll go out on a limb and guess that I’m not repeating something when I say how about a hat tip to a guy that had what is a forgotten role in the process:

              Dana Ford.

              I still remember that Coach’s Show after the LOI had been signed and he was free to comment. Pretty sure I’m getting it almost exactly verbatim when he was asked about the kid from Rockford:

              ”Coach Ford says he’s better than Nic Moore, so I guess we’ll see.”

              I’m up in the cheap seats with most of the rest of you so I don’t know any inside info or backstory on recruiting, but at that time it made me wonder if we were recruiting Moore hard and Fred verballed first, which sent Moore to Normal.

              Good God the alternative is not a What If scenario I care to contemplate. Probably no Gonzaga, probably no Final 4, no 35-0, no AAC... if Fred wasn’t the most important player in setting the trajectory, I’d like to hear an argument about who contributed more.

              If any insiders can elaborate or modify my recollection on the recruiting, I’d love to hear it.

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              • WuShock16
                WuShock16 commented
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                FWIW, Nic Moore was in the same high school year as Ron and Evan (a year ahead of Fred), so it wouldn’t have exactly worked out to be a Fred-or-Nic question.

              • Good News
                Good News commented
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                Ah. Thanks. After I posted I wondered that. Although that still spawns a what if of “would we have recruited Fred and would he have signed if we thought highly of Nic Moore and got him”.

            • Eldridge interviews Fred prior to Game 4.

              While talking about WSU, Fred came up with this "Yogi-ism" statement. As many interviews as Fred is doing, sooner or later one of these was going to happen.

              What we did in my four years there will go down in history for a long time
              Read more here: https://www.kansas.com/sports/colleg...#storylink=cpy

              The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
              We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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              • vanvleet+leonard was kind of predictable for nba hell to opposing teams. fvv was never a nobody.

                he should have been the starting point guard on that 2015 pan am team, too.

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                • Originally posted by another shocker View Post
                  vanvleet+leonard was kind of predictable for nba hell to opposing teams. fvv was never a nobody.

                  he should have been the starting point guard on that 2015 pan am team, too.
                  You got that right. He clearly should have been the starting guard on that Pan am team. But did not make it for several non basketball reasons. Head Coach Mark Few still holding a grudge for Fred hitting that big shot against Gonzaga. Assitant coach Tad Boyle of Colorado and former KU player holding a grudge for Fred kicking KU butt in Omaha and saying to KC Star that Kellys Oubre can "sleep all he want." Fred also said Frank Mason was talking a lot of smack at the beginning of the game but " not much talking after the game" KU people really dislike Fred because he tells the truth. Finally you can bet Mark Turgeon told Boyle to make sure his boy Mello Trimble made the team. Mellow could not even dribble up the court without making a turnover.

                  The arrogant KU fans are so obese with their dislike for Fred they got 4 pages on their message board arguing that Frank Mason is better than Fred. Next they will be arguing that Devonti Graham is bettet than Landry Shamet. Such is the attitude of blueblood arrogance.


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                  • another shocker
                    another shocker commented
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                    they would have brought home the gold with fvv at point guard. i never had a doubt. turgeon etc. had other ideas

                • I have come here to chew bubblegum and kickass ... and I'm all out of bubblegum.

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                  • I’ve read a few people that think Kawhi could end up in a Clippers jersey sooner rather than later. If he’s got to leave Toronto, it’d be cool to see him teaming up with Landry next.
                    "You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."

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                    • RH: VanVleet's Story Often Incomplete

                      "Most people, as they're talking about it in the playoffs and the championship series, say that he's not very athletic," said Kerry Rosenboom, Wichita State's strength and conditioning coordinator. "Fred, to me, is very athletic laterally. That's how, in my mind, he can defend the way that he does. He is also a very strong person; probably stronger than most people he will play against. When you combine those things, Fred, to me, is athletic defensively."

                      "He brings every attribute he has to the table every day," Rosenboom said. "He's just never going to be termed as the NBA athlete, because they term that as finishing every break with an incredible dunk. That's not going to be Fred."

                      The NBA is sometimes played vertically, with great athletes rising above the crowd to block shots, rebound and score. VanVleet excels at the parts of the game played horizontally – cutting off dribblers, passing, driving, boxing out bigger opponents.

                      "If people want to consider Fred an athlete or not an athlete by the normal eye test, Fred would be in the bottom 50 percent," Rosenboom said. "If you look at what an athlete does when they're on the ground and how they move, now Fred becomes an upper-half athlete, probably upper 25 percent in my mind."

                      VanVleet's mind enhances those athletic attributes. He knows, instinctually and through study, where to go and how to get there. He recognizes his limitations and embraces them as part of his Rockford-tough, Bet On Yourself story. There is a part of him that relishes being under-estimated and overlooked and he is wise enough to use it to his advantage.

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                      • Excellent summation by Rosenboom! That is why he is the best in the biz!

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