Havoc in the Heartland Series

[Kung Wu]

I was going mostly from articles about the series. GoShockers.com mentioned Tulsa was leading 15-12 in an article leading up to the men's tennis match with Tulsa yesterday evening. So I thought I would take a look at.

Oh crap, I thought this was referring to the conference all sports trophy! I thought you were highlighting Tulsa because they were winning it. LMAO!

[1972Shocker]

Thanks for the breakdown!

Is there a link to some sort of chart showing how all the schools compare?

I was going mostly from articles about the series. GoShockers.com mentioned Tulsa was leading 15-12 in an article leading up to the men's tennis match with Tulsa yesterday evening. So I thought I would take a look at.

However, I did just run across the following "chart" on GoShockers.com (The link to this is under Fan Central)

http://goshockers.com/sports/2017/10...heartland.aspx

I would like to see them put a column on the chart showing the running score. I will send an e-mail to the AD's office with that suggestion.

I did have to make a correction to my initial post. Men's & Women's Track & Field do not get 6 points each for the Indoor and Outdoor Championships. They get 3 points each. Overal Track & Field/XC account for 24 of the 66 points.

A couple of notes on the linked Havoc chart:

On the results schedule they don't list the 3-game softball series. The do list the AAC Men;s Golf Championship. However, Tulsa does not play golf. They also list the AAC Men's and Women's Tennis Tournaments but those poitns will already be decided in head-to-head matches.

[Kung Wu]

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[Kung Wu]

So I was thinking a list of the relevant sports, points available, points earned, etc.

Where are you getting all of your data from?

[1972Shocker]

Thanks for the breakdown!

Is there a link to some sort of chart showing how all the schools compare?

Not that I am aware of although I am not sure exactly what kind of comparison you are looking for.

[Kung Wu]

Thanks for the breakdown!

Is there a link to some sort of chart showing how all the schools compare?

[1972Shocker]

I wasn't sure where the best place to put this was. If the administrators think it needs to be elsewhere they can move it.

Not sure that the Havoc in the Heartland Series has gained much traction or interest yet and maybe it never will. Nevertheless, maybe some would be interested in a status report.

Prior to the Shockers Men's Tennis match at Tulsa last night Tulsa held a 15-12 advantage in the point system. WSU has six points from Volleyball, six points from Men's Basketball. Tulsa has 12 points from men's and women's cross country and three points from women's basketball.

My understanding is that in Men's Tennis the 6 points go to the team finishing higher in the AAC Championship unless they play head to head during the season. With WSU picking up a 4-3 win in Tulsa last night over the Hurricane the Shocks are now leading 18-15 in the series if I understand this correctly.

Up next in the Series are 3 points each in Men's and Women's Indoor Track & Field at the AAC Indoor Championships this Friday and Saturday (Feb 23 - 24) and 3 points at the final regular season Women's Basketball Game in Tulsa on Monday (Feb 26). My guess is they will split the track points with the Shocker Men finisher higher than Tulsa in the AAC Championships and the Tulsa women finishing higher than the Shocks in the AAC Championships. The WBB game on Monday could go either way.

At that point 24 points will remain to be determined as follows:

6 Points - Women's Tennis at Tulsa on March 17: Tulsa usually good. Shocks are pretty good this year. Should be very competitive.

6 Points (2 For Each Game) - Women's Softball - 3 Game Series in Wichita Aprill 6 - 8: Tulsa picked to win the AAC. Shocks picked 5th. Tulsa will be favored.

6 Points - Women's Golf - Higher Finish at the AAC Championship April 15-17: Tulsa finished 4th last year. Lost 1 Sr. who lead Tulsa in stroke average. Not sure at all here. Shocks have Taryn Torgerson but not sure the supporting cast is deep enough.

3 Points - Men's Outdoor T&F - Higher Finish at the AAC Championship May 11 - 13: Shocks are looking pretty strong this year if they stay healthy.

3 Points - Women's Outdoor T&F - Higher Finish at the AAC Championship May 11 - 13: Shocks are rebuilding in a major way this year.

Sports that are not part of the series:

On the men's side Tulsa has Football and Soccer but do not play Baseball or Golf.

On the women's side Tulsa has Soccer and Rowing.

There are 66 total points in the series. Tiebreaker is the NCAA Graduation Success Rate.

At this point I probably have to give the edge to Tulsa this year. If we had our Women's T&F team of last year that would be different but the Shocker women lost a ton of talent to graduation and have decided to rebuild in a major way as they are redshirting around 26 athletes including some of our top athletes.

Just as with the Valley's All-Sports Award Track & Field/XC carry a significant importance accounting for 24 of the 66 total points.