Big mid week game- Who do you start?

[shox1989]

I think it was 2001 we beat NU and they were top 5 won a lot of mid week game over good teams but did not win the Valley and no at-large bid thats what changed things.

It was 2001.

[WSUwatcher]

2001

Hey, 10 and 1989 -- Guys, if you think the problem in 2001 was simply failing to win the Valley, look back at the record and think again.

WSU was 42-24, their worst record since Gene's first year. They were 21-11 in Valley play, 21-13 outside (18-12 if you take out non-Division 1 teams, one of whom (Lewis & Clark) actually pounded the Shocks 10-2. Yes, they split with Nebraska, and split four games with Long Beach, and beat Arkansas 5-0. But three of their wins were also the opening series against Air Force (that year's Niagara), and their Hawaii Rainbow tournament record was an unusually poor 4-3.

The killer in 2001 was barely losing a mediocre league -- the MVC's overall deterioration had long since set in by then -- to Missouri State as a result of a four-game sweep (!) at Springfield, and then going out in two games from the Valley tournament, including yet another loss to Da Bears. It wasn't that WSU used up their pitching against the better teams and had none left for MSU or the Valley tournament; it was that in the six most important conference games of the year in a mediocre MVC, they were 0-6. If that wasn't a reason for the NCAA to decide a close call against the Shocks, what is?

So if WSU really switched pitching rotation approaches from what had worked for years to a new method because of one anomalous season's result that they imposed on themselves by stinking it up when it mattered most -- and I'm not necessarily convinced that was why they did it, by the way -- it was the panic overreaction of all time, and they've been paying for it off and on ever since.

[shox1989]

Anyone know who is starting against Arizona on Tuesday and Wednesday?

[shock10]

Brian Flynn on Tuesday and Charlie Lowell on Wednesday. Got Email from Shelly today

[shock10]

Oh yes the Wednesday game start time has changed to 2:00 pm

[t7017s]

Brian Flynn on Tuesday and Charlie Lowell on Wednesday. Got Email from Shelly today

NOOOOO not Flynn... Please, please not Flynn! Flynn is like Brents version of what Baez was for Gene the last couple years!

[Shocker85]

Brian Flynn on Tuesday and Charlie Lowell on Wednesday. Got Email from Shelly today

NOOOOO not Flynn... Please, please not Flynn! Flynn is like Brents version of what Baez was for Gene the last couple years!

I'm OK with this move (I think). Flynn has great stuff and I'm betting they're having a hard time figuring out why he has lost his effectiveness in relief.

For some guys, going through the pre-game warm-up routine is important for them to get physically and mentally ready to pitch. They claim Flynn physically can get ready quickly. Time to find out if it is his brain getting in the way of his success.

I hope it works out. Flynn can be a game breaker.

--'85.

[t7017s]

Brian Flynn on Tuesday and Charlie Lowell on Wednesday. Got Email from Shelly today

NOOOOO not Flynn... Please, please not Flynn! Flynn is like Brents version of what Baez was for Gene the last couple years!

I'm OK with this move (I think). Flynn has great stuff and I'm betting they're having a hard time figuring out why he has lost his effectiveness in relief.

For some guys, going through the pre-game warm-up routine is important for them to get physically and mentally ready to pitch. They claim Flynn physically can get ready quickly. Time to find out if it is his brain getting in the way of his success.

I hope it works out. Flynn can be a game breaker.

--'85.

The only kid in 35 years to be academically ineligible... Throws 2 balls in a row and goes to pieces... Seems to me we know what the problem is. Clearly it has nothing to do with his stuff.

I agree he could be a game breaker and hope he can get it together but I really wish the decision to "find out" wasn't against Arizona. It is his 3rd year here regardless of his eligibility last season... just saying.