Frank Martin to SC

[Zardoz]

Once a school asks for permission to talk to a coach it is about all over. I'm sure Martin's agent has all but the fine points of a contract worked.

[SHOCKvalue]

And at 11:52. Soren Petro in KC gives the "KSU needs to give Marshall whatever he wants."

There's not a snowball's chance in you-know-where that 3G is going to Manhattan.

Think about it...

-After 3G knew he was out of the running for the USC job, by most accounts due to the price he thought he needed to take the career risk, he re-upped with WSU complete with an official press release and quote. Do we really not think that when Gregg gave the okay for that process to move forward at WSU he wasn't well aware that FM was in serious negotiations with USC, and might vacate his K-State spot? Due to their network, guys like Marshall (and Martin obviously) know a lot more about these coaching rumors than Joe Public. You don't make an announcement like Marshall made on Saturday if you think another job you might have any degree of interest in might be getting ready to open up.

-Marshall's a bit of a narcissistic control-freak hot-head. Martin's a bit of a narcissistic control-freak hot-head. K-State's new AD by all account appears to fit a similar mold as well. It's been reported numerous times that Marshall and Martin have some degree of relationship. Do we not think Marshall - if he had a sliver of interest in the K-State job - would make a quick call to Martin and get his take on the boss who appears to be the sole reason Martin's leaving town? That alone would be enough to nuke any sliver of interest Marshall might have for the K-State job. Further, do we not think that Marshall could use basic psychology and deduce that his personality type and Currie's personality type would be a no-go together. If Martin doesn't play well with Currie, Marshall's not going to play well with Currie. Pretty simple.

-Gregg LOVES him some golf. Manhattan, and the area surrounding, has one golf course that's not a joke. Let's see, in the Wichita area we have... Flint Hills, Prairie Dunes, Crestview's 36 holes (where the Marshall's live), Wichita County Club, Sand Hills Station, and any number of other decent public and private courses. It's not even a comparison. If you're a golfer, Wichita is certainly not heaven, but Manhattan is pretty close to hell.

-Lastly, outside of conference affiliation (which is a given biggie), what do you gain by moving from WSU to K-State? It's a wash at best, with a few items in K-State's favor, and a few in ours.

[SubGod22]

How about Larry Eustachy to KSU? Tim Floyd? Matt Doherty? Danny Manning? Dana Altman?

Are there any other KSU connections in the coaching community they could target?

[tw805]

How about Larry Eustachy to KSU? Tim Floyd? Matt Doherty? Danny Manning? Dana Altman?

Are there any other KSU connections in the coaching community they could target?

Didn't Tim Jankovitch (sp?) play at KSU?

[SubGod22]

Didn't Tim Jankovitch (sp?) play at KSU?

How did I forget about Jank? I wouldn't mind seeing him leave ISU so they could hire somebody worth a crap that's not afraid to schedule.

[newshock1234]

How did I forget about Jank? I wouldn't mind seeing him leave ISU so they could hire somebody worth a crap that's not afraid to schedule.

He fit right in there, him and Bill Synder have the same scheduling philosophy

[C0|dB|00ded]

Frank Martin's KSU teams played tougher than anything Fertilizer U has seen in over 20 years. Frank Martin was exactly what KSU needed to stay competitive against sKUm and other Big 12 schools. Silo-Tech will now slip back into obscurity where the highlight of the season will be to get pounded by 25 at Allen Fieldhouse West every year and then wait for their NIT seeding with bated breath in March.


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...:cool:

[tw805]

I would think that of the available coaches that are most likely to leave, (which excludes Shaka Smart, et al.,) Jankovitch makes the most sense. Of the guys SubGod listed, Eustachy is one fall from the wagon away from turning your program into a train wreck, Tim Floyd had trouble follow him everywhere he went, Doherty was a disaster. Each of those guys seems like a potential Bob Huggins repeat. Danny Manning is unproven, and Dana Altman has been given the keys to heaven from Nike. So I don't see any of those working. I'm having trouble coming up with any more names that are within the legitimate realm of possibility.

[shoxlax]

Currie was at Tennessee with Bruce Pearl.

[1972Shocker]

From one of the K-State fan forums:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=173&f=2671&t=8830282&p=13

Cole Manbeck ? @Cole_Manbeck
Prominent donors to K-State athletics have told me they're done giving money to K-State if Frank Martin is gone and John Currie remains

No, you can't blame Currie yet. We still have to see what kind of hire he will make. But, mark my words if we hire some mid-major coach that's a real up and comer we are screwed. We need a big name and a big splash, because those are the only people who can recruit to Manhattan.

[Shox21]

From one of the K-State fan forums:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=173&f...t=8830282&p=13

If that is true, it is indeed unfortunate. What was Currie supposed to do when told by the NCAA officials "it" was a violation. Saddle K-State with two or three years of sanctions and penalties? There is more to the story of Martin wanting to leave K-State than the Currie/Samuels thing. There has to be.

I personally think Martin was doing his "head coaching experience" at K-State and keeping his eyes open for an east coast job in another "power" conference. Wonder how much the fact that he would have to go up against his mentor Huggins next year played into his decision. Well, it looks like it's done and I'm not going to kick K-State fans when they are down. This could have been us, guys, and scrambling at the last minute for a new coach that can keep your incoming recruits can't be much fun.

[Aargh]

Wow, if true, where in the hell does KSU turn to?

Danny Manning

[shoxlax]

How about Larry Eustachy to KSU? Tim Floyd? Matt Doherty? Danny Manning? Dana Altman?

Are there any other KSU connections in the coaching community they could target?

Larry would play well in Aggieville.

[pogo]

Am I the only one that sees a WSU-USC series starting up, just for esses and grins?

I really don't see that happening at all since a loss to WSU would bring the wrath of the sc fans down on their AD. Not happening in a million years.

[wu_shizzle]

Jank was my first thought when Frank to SC talks started happening last week.