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When will we sever ties with Saudi Arabia? They are tied to practically everything terrorist related. It's strange how our government doesn't call them out. It's like there is something behind the scenes relationship-wise that we just aren't being told. President after President just ignores them.
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Saudi Arabia helps significantly in keeping the piece in the Middle East by threatening Iran. If we pull back from SA, you can expect war to break out and for Russia to back the winner. Once a winner is established, Israel is in serious danger where the US has to sever ties or get sucked into an extremely unpopular war.
The US backing out on the Saudis has serious WWIII potential.Livin the dreamComment
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They’re slowly ID-ing the guys that SA sent over to do the wet work. I’d bet a molding Big Mac that SA just throws those guys under the bus, calls them rouge agents, and executes them. Everybody in US and SA interests just washes their hands, and Turkey’s left going “WTF just happened”.Comment
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If history is any indicator ... yup.Originally posted by SHOCKvalue View Post
Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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Actually, they will just march 15 guys in hoods out and whack their heads off and SAY it was the same guys.Originally posted by SHOCKvalue View PostKung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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I’ll never get over what they did to our countrymen in The Flight of the Phoenix (1965). Oops, that was only a movie. :(
large_flight_of_phoenix_X07_blu-ray_.jpg"You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"Comment
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There is a battle (call it a civil war) going on between Erdogan (and Muslim Brotherhood) against the Muslim Authoritarian regimes in the Middle East. If the Saudi Royal family loses power, you will see the Muslim Brotherhood gain control - things will get exponentially worse.Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
Where ever we can oppose Erdogan, we should.Comment
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Can you expand on the details? Who is on whose side in the M.E.?Originally posted by SB Shock View PostKung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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This may not totally answer your question but the sides are historically the Sunni Muslims vs. the Shia Muslims who hate each other because of a conflict that dates back to after Muhammed died. Saudi Arabia are basically Sunni's and the Shia's basically make Iranian mullah's although they overlap.Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
"There was a dispute in the community of Muslims in present-day Saudi Arabia over the question of succession," says Augustus Norton, author of Hezbollah: A Short History. "That is to say, who is the rightful successor to the prophet?"
Most of the Prophet Muhammad's followers wanted the community of Muslims to determine who would succeed him. A smaller group thought that someone from his family should take up his mantle. They favored Ali, who was married to Muhammad's daughter, Fatimah.
"Shia believed that leadership should stay within the family of the prophet," notes Gregory Gause, professor of Middle East politics at the University of Vermont. "And thus they were the partisans of Ali, his cousin and son-in-law. Sunnis believed that leadership should fall to the person who was deemed by the elite of the community to be best able to lead the community. And it was fundamentally that political division that began the Sunni-Shia split."
The Sunnis prevailed and chose a successor to be the first caliph.
Eventually, Ali was chosen as the fourth caliph, but not before violent conflict broke out. Two of the earliest caliphs were murdered. War erupted when Ali became caliph, and he too was killed in fighting in the year 661 near the town of Kufa, now in present-day Iraq.
The violence and war split the small community of Muslims into two branches that would never reunite.
The war continued with Ali's son, Hussein, leading the Shiites. "Hussein rejected the rule of the caliph at the time," says Vali Nasr, author of The Shia Revival. "He stood up to the caliph's very large army on the battlefield. He and 72 members of his family and companions fought against a very large Arab army of the caliph. They were all massacred." More About the Series
Chronology: A History of the Shiite-Sunni SplitFeb. 12, 2007
Series Overview: The Partisans of Ali Feb. 12, 2007
Profiles: Key Individuals in the Shiite-Sunni Divide Feb. 12, 2007
Suggested Reading: The Shiite-Sunni ConflictFeb. 12, 2007
Hussein was decapitated and his head carried in tribute to the Sunni caliph in Damascus. His body was left on the battlefield at Karbala. Later it was buried there.
It is the symbolism of Hussein's death that holds so much spiritual power for Shiites.
"An innocent spiritual figure is in many ways martyred by a far more powerful, unjust force," Nasr says. "He becomes the crystallizing force around which a faith takes form and takes inspiration."
Here is more information regarding the Muslim Brotherhood who are Sunni's but have Shiite Orientation.
https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/St...te-orientationLast edited by Shockm; October 24, 2018, 07:29 PM.Comment
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Reports are coming out that there is an internal struggle in the Saudi Royal family and will be an attempted coup to replace mBS.Comment
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