Poll - How Long will Joe Biden last before Kamala Takes Over

[pinstripers]

NYT says we have left 250,000 Afghans who worked with us

[SB Shock]

Well, now 4 brave patriots, Marines, are dead.

Unleash ****ing hell. This absolutely cannot stand.

In 1976, the Norks killed two American officers with axes in the DMZ who where overseeing tree trimming operation.

The U.S. completed the tree trimming with Operation Paul Bunyan. The 2nd engineer battalion (combat engineers) deployed and cut down the offending tree. North Korea responded with 200 armed soldiers. Then the U.S. had their attack helicopters air force assets out of sight, but then ordered them to show themselves to the Norks. Let me say it is impressive sight to see U.S. combat jets racing towards the NK border with afterburners on their simulated combat runs and then turning away at the last moment (for me it was with F-16, with them at the time it was probably F-4s).

The U.S. had the 2nd I.D. on alert and had deployed for support and defensive positions. In addition at the strategic level the U.S. deployed aircraft carriers with strike forces in the air. B-52's were launched and were loitering off the coast of NK and all the strategic assets in Japan were on alert.

The Norks decided this was not a fight they wanted and back down.

This is what should have happened in Afghanistan with the Taliban - we should have deployed overwhelming force and told the Taliban that if anything happened to one American or American/allied soldier then all hell would rain down on them.

It will take another president like Ronald Reagan to rebuild the U.S. reputation (I hope there is one out there).

[SB Shock]

I'm seeing that U.S. servicemen deaths are much larger than is being put out. I hope not but this is going to be double-figures.

Mogadishu

Benghazi

Kabul

They all happen out of weakness.

[1972Shocker]

I'm seeing that U.S. servicemen deaths are much larger than is being put out. I hope not but this is going to be double-figures.

Last report I saw was 11 U.S. Marines and 1 Navy Medic. No telling how many AmCits were around the perimeter although apparently we knew this was coming as the State Department issued warnings to leave the area.

[wufan]

If we don’t take back the strategically necessary area for retreat tomorrow, Biden should be impeached.

[pinstripers]

Touching base on Vice President Kamala Harris's tour of Viet Nam, it appears that she has already visited Har Dong and Suk Muk Dik

[WstateU]

Bump

[Kung Wu]

[1972Shocker]

He probably would have made it through his full term if had not agreed to the early debate with Trump. Some think Biden was sandbagged by his one party on this. They wanted the time to adjust if Joe face-planted and if Joe did well they could re-assure their base. Win-win for them.

With hindsight accepting this early debate may prove to be Trumps undoing. He should have have agreed to a debate but not until after the nominating conventions. Perhaps shortly after labor day. OTOH, I suppose if Trump had done that Biden would have simply declined to debate or if he did do the debate with the same result the Dems would play the 25th amendment card.

Not sure it really makes a lot of difference who wins this election. Good chance the continued decline and eventual fall of the United States is pretty much baked in the cake at this point. What will come along as a replacement remains to be seen.

I simply don't think the powers operating in the shadows are going to allow Trump to win. And if he does, his 2nd term might prove to be quite short.

How's that for a positive outlook.

[Kung Wu]

He probably would have made it through his full term if had not agreed to the early debate with Trump. Some think Biden was sandbagged by his one party on this. They wanted the time to adjust if Joe face-planted and if Joe did well they could re-assure their base. Win-win for them.

With hindsight accepting this early debate may prove to be Trumps undoing. He should have have agreed to a debate but not until after the nominating conventions. Perhaps shortly after labor day. OTOH, I suppose if Trump had done that Biden would have simply declined to debate or if he did do the debate with the same result the Dems would play the 25th amendment card.

Not sure it really makes a lot of difference who wins this election. Good chance the continued decline and eventual fall of the United States is pretty much baked in the cake at this point. What will come along as a replacement remains to be seen.

I simply don't think the powers operating in the shadows are going to allow Trump to win. And if he does, his 2nd term might prove to be quite short.

How's that for a positive outlook.

[Atxshoxfan]

He probably would have made it through his full term if had not agreed to the early debate with Trump. Some think Biden was sandbagged by his one party on this. They wanted the time to adjust if Joe face-planted and if Joe did well they could re-assure their base. Win-win for them.

With hindsight accepting this early debate may prove to be Trumps undoing. He should have have agreed to a debate but not until after the nominating conventions. Perhaps shortly after labor day. OTOH, I suppose if Trump had done that Biden would have simply declined to debate or if he did do the debate with the same result the Dems would play the 25th amendment card.

Not sure it really makes a lot of difference who wins this election. Good chance the continued decline and eventual fall of the United States is pretty much baked in the cake at this point. What will come along as a replacement remains to be seen.

I simply don't think the powers operating in the shadows are going to allow Trump to win. And if he does, his 2nd term might prove to be quite short.

How's that for a positive outlook.

Raskin was already filmed talking of keeping Trump from the presidency if he wins, by means of ineligibility because of insurrection, which by the way, Trump has never been charged or convicted of.

[Shockm]

He probably would have made it through his full term if had not agreed to the early debate with Trump. Some think Biden was sandbagged by his one party on this. They wanted the time to adjust if Joe face-planted and if Joe did well they could re-assure their base. Win-win for them.

With hindsight accepting this early debate may prove to be Trumps undoing. He should have have agreed to a debate but not until after the nominating conventions. Perhaps shortly after labor day. OTOH, I suppose if Trump had done that Biden would have simply declined to debate or if he did do the debate with the same result the Dems would play the 25th amendment card.

Not sure it really makes a lot of difference who wins this election. Good chance the continued decline and eventual fall of the United States is pretty much baked in the cake at this point. What will come along as a replacement remains to be seen.

This is a true take. While we don’t know for sure what would have happened if he had waited to debate, this is a likely result.

I simply don't think the powers operating in the shadows are going to allow Trump to win. And if he does, his 2nd term might prove to be quite short.

How's that for a positive outlook.

I don’t agree that there is a zero path to win in a federal system like we have, although it’s more difficult. However, Trump has to execute a really good campaign, and the Republican Party needs to be organized (who is the head of the Republican Party? Trump is. ) There is no reason that with a clear disciplined message, that Trump doesn’t win Red states that shade conservative, like Arizona (a border state too), and other conservative states like Georgia, Ohio, and South Carolina. There are other states that are tight, but probably shade slightly blue like N. Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

[1972Shocker]

I don’t agree that there is a zero path to win in a federal system like we have, although it’s more difficult.

I don't think I mentioned anything about a zero path to win. My point was that I am not convinced it will ultimately make that much difference on who wins it.

[Shockm]

I don't think I mentioned anything about a zero path to win. My point was that I am not convinced it will ultimately make that much difference on who wins it.

You were close to it.

[shock]

He probably would have made it through his full term if had not agreed to the early debate with Trump. Some think Biden was sandbagged by his one party on this. They wanted the time to adjust if Joe face-planted and if Joe did well they could re-assure their base. Win-win for them.

With hindsight accepting this early debate may prove to be Trumps undoing. He should have have agreed to a debate but not until after the nominating conventions. Perhaps shortly after labor day. OTOH, I suppose if Trump had done that Biden would have simply declined to debate or if he did do the debate with the same result the Dems would play the 25th amendment card.

Not sure it really makes a lot of difference who wins this election. Good chance the continued decline and eventual fall of the United States is pretty much baked in the cake at this point. What will come along as a replacement remains to be seen.

I simply don't think the powers operating in the shadows are going to allow Trump to win. And if he does, his 2nd term might prove to be quite short.

How's that for a positive outlook.

Dems would have found another way to test Biden. They had to see how he would react and respond live unaided except by amphetamines. A debate was just the easiest way.