Coronavirus 2019-nCoV

[C0|dB|00ded]

No, it all started with "news" channels and tech companies in collusion relentlessly, overtly, and dishonestly attacking Trump and conservative traditions and ideas. That's what caused the new era of skepticism of anything the "news" says that continues to this day. The news and social+search companies created an environment where good Americans died because they can't trust anything that is "reported" anymore. What a shame.

I used to believe as you do. Then one day I woke up.

Donald Trump brought most of the attacks on himself.

1) He trolled the media and said outrageously offensive things until they became obsessed with him.

2) He then called them Fake News.

3) He then lamented about how unfairly he was being treated.

It's a fairly solid PSYOP's strategy. It's also commonly seen in the behavior of toddlers.

And as far as Rush Limbaugh's concerned... it took me no less than 30 days to deprogram my folks from the pandemic propaganda they had received from Rush, OAN, FOX, and NewsMax. I still remember some of the lines my father gave me; same ones I initially read on here and likely the reason I started posting: "It's just the flu." After which a comparison of flu deaths to current Covid deaths is offered, etc. etc. etc.

Now when I visit, we just sit and roll our eyes at all the Covidiocy we hear about in the news. But how many Conservative Americans like my folks had to meet an early fate because they didn't have clear guidance from a source they could trust. Thousands.

I believe, like the article about the dead talk show hosts states, that Covidiocy was born on talk radio. If you'll remember, Trump was pretty sound scientifically (at least in appearance) at the start of the pandemic. It wasn't until May that he started to come off the rails. Considering his close relationship with talk radio celebrities and FOX, it's not a big stretch to imagine the tail wagged the dog. To think that a radio talk show celebrity with a high school diploma could influence people on important health decisions over one of the most renown infectious disease specialists in the world, is nothing less than mind-blowing.

P.S. And if you'll remember, the start of the pandemic brought a cease fire between Trump and the media. They started calling Trump a "war-time president" and I was proud of the way he seemed to rise to the occasion. He was working with Democrats and Republicans alike to keep America safe. Then just like that, he started to go off the rails and transform into a Denier. It was an extremely sad thing to watch, and one that ultimately forced me onto a political island. I finally recognized the danger he represented and woke up as if I had just taken a cold shower.

[C0|dB|00ded]

When it comes to available beds in hospitals, staff shortage is a major issue. Not everyone that gets infected ends up in the hospital.

The reason there are no available beds is because we are breaking records on hospitalizations all across the country. What's wrong with you?

It's like sitting in a sinking boat w/ a hole in the side and cursing the water for being fluid.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/570352-alaska-tops-covid-19-hospitalization-record-6-more

https://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/local/georgia-shatters-record-for-covid-19-hospitalizations/article_5d47ba5a-0b25-11ec-80d1-ffd319a25d64.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/16/we-are-on-fire-five-us-states-set-new-records-for-covid-cases-as-hospitalizations-rise-.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/25/pediatric-covid-hospitalizations-surge-to-highest-on-record-in-us-as-doctors-brace-for-more.html

https://apnews.com/article/business-health-florida-coronavirus-pandemic-7ca97f0d685ab25559cf9b51cfc077eb

https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2021/08/oregon-sets-records-for-daily-coronavirus-cases-hospitalizations-people-in-icu.html

https://www.knoe.com/2021/08/03/la-breaks-record-covid-hospitalizations/

https://www.wlwt.com/article/covid-19-hospitalizations-hit-record-highs-in-kentucky/37446400

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2021/08/31/alaska-surpasses-previous-hospitalizations-record-and-reports-over-600-covid-19-cases-tuesday/

https://www.news4jax.com/news/2021/08/31/pediatric-covid-19-hospitalizations-in-florida-reach-record-highs/

https://www.wate.com/news/local-news/hospitalizations-for-covid-19-in-knoxville-region-nearing-record-high/

https://www.chattanoogan.com/2021/8/31/433874/New-Hamilton-County-COVID-Cases-Jump.aspx

[Kung Wu]

Donald Trump brought most of the attacks on himself.

1) He trolled the media and said outrageously offensive things until they became obsessed with him.

2) He then called them Fake News.

3) He then lamented about how unfairly he was being treated.

False.

1) False.

2) True.

3) True.

[Ted Lasso's Neighbor]

The reason there are no available beds is because we are breaking records on hospitalizations all across the country. What's wrong with you?

It's like sitting in a sinking boat w/ a hole in the side and cursing the water for being fluid.

There are a lot of infections, but denying that staff shortages isn't an issue at the hospitals is a bunch of bs.

[Ted Lasso's Neighbor]

The reason there are no available beds is because we are breaking records on hospitalizations all across the country. What's wrong with you?

It's like sitting in a sinking boat w/ a hole in the side and cursing the water for being fluid.

I was talking about Wichita hospitals - got any links worth reading regarding Wichita hospitals instead?

[C0|dB|00ded]

There are a lot of infections, but denying that staff shortages isn't an issue at the hospitals is a bunch of bs.

There are staff shortages, but it has nothing to do with the pressing issue of infections.

It's like your house is on fire and you're lamenting the fact that you forget to rake up the leaves in your backyard. Bro... your. house. is. on. fire.

There's plenty of articles on staffing issues. I've read a bunch of them and heard the cries from my healthcare friends. The pandemic has burnt many folks out and they are rethinking their decision to enter the field. Yet, the healthcare system is intact and new hospitalization records are being set every day.

You want to fix the staffing problem? Find me a time machine, I'll bring the tranq gun and the vaccine, and send me back 2 months ago.

HC staffing article:

https://www.kxly.com/this-pandemic-is-not-slowing-down-state-health-leaders-fear-healthcare-staffing-crisis-cant-keep-up-with-hospitalizations/

[Ted Lasso's Neighbor]

There are staff shortages, but it has nothing to do with the pressing issue of infections.

It's like your house is on fire and you're lamenting the fact that you forget to rake up the leaves in your backyard. Bro... your. house. is. on. fire.

There's plenty of articles on staffing issues. I've read a bunch of them and heard the cries from my healthcare friends. The pandemic has burnt many folks out and they are rethinking their decision to enter the field. Yet, the healthcare system is intact and new hospitalization records are being set every day.

You want to fix the staffing problem? Find me a time machine, I'll bring the tranq gun and the vaccine, and send me back 2 months ago.

HC staffing article:

https://www.kxly.com/this-pandemic-i...pitalizations/

Or one could spin your analogy and say your house is on fire but it burns to the ground because all of the firefighters are busy with other fires or off work because they have covid and they aren't any replacements.

Since you didn't provide anything regarding Wichita hospitals, I'll post one from just a couple days ago - https://www.kansas.com/news/coronavi...253858748.html Maybe you missed it or maybe you didn't want to link to it because it mentions staff shortages.

Also, here's a link to a post from a couple weeks ago of where area health administrators talk about what things are like in their hospitals - https://shockernet.net/forum/miscell...09#post1307109 - worth the listen to if you haven't already

[WuTheOne]

On my recent ER visit, my wife was told she couldn't stay with me in the ER, but if I was admitted she could visit me, and she'd need to because there wouldn't be anybody else available to take care of me.

There was a shortage of health care workers in hospitals before the pandemic showed up. Throw in that some have left the profession for fear for their health and just plain burnout from the hours they have to work and the fact that there were people they couldn't save. There are only so many times someone can induce a coma, stick a tube down someone's throat and tell their family they can never see the patient again until they recover or die.

While deaths among health care workers have not been excessive, when there was already a shortage, even a small number of deaths becomes significant.

Maybe some of the "it's just the flu" crowd could go work in hospitals. Even if they get covid, it's no big deal, just take it easy for a few days and then you're immune.

[Ted Lasso's Neighbor]

Lol - https://twitter.com/TheTomGeorge/sta...95534210060292

Story about it - https://www.businessinsider.com/fake...onolulu-2021-9

Authorities arrested Chloe Mrozak, 24, on Saturday over allegations that she used a fake vaccine card to fly to Hawaii on August 23 and bypass a mandatory 10-day quarantine for unvaccinated visitors, the publication reported.

Court documents cited by the publication showed a handwritten card that said Mrozak received two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine in Delaware from National Guard members.

The photo also shows that Moderna — the company that makes one of the three coronavirus vaccines being used in the US — was misspelled as "Maderna."

[shoxlax]

Lol - https://twitter.com/TheTomGeorge/sta...95534210060292

Story about it - https://www.businessinsider.com/fake...onolulu-2021-9

Wonder if she is related to McLovin

[ShockerFever]

I used to believe as you do. Then one day I woke up.

Donald Trump brought most of the attacks on himself.

1) He trolled the media and said outrageously offensive things until they became obsessed with him.

2) He then called them Fake News.

3) He then lamented about how unfairly he was being treated.

It's a fairly solid PSYOP's strategy. It's also commonly seen in the behavior of toddlers.

And as far as Rush Limbaugh's concerned... it took me no less than 30 days to deprogram my folks from the pandemic propaganda they had received from Rush, OAN, FOX, and NewsMax. I still remember some of the lines my father gave me; same ones I initially read on here and likely the reason I started posting: "It's just the flu." After which a comparison of flu deaths to current Covid deaths is offered, etc. etc. etc.

Now when I visit, we just sit and roll our eyes at all the Covidiocy we hear about in the news. But how many Conservative Americans like my folks had to meet an early fate because they didn't have clear guidance from a source they could trust. Thousands.

I believe, like the article about the dead talk show hosts states, that Covidiocy was born on talk radio. If you'll remember, Trump was pretty sound scientifically (at least in appearance) at the start of the pandemic. It wasn't until May that he started to come off the rails. Considering his close relationship with talk radio celebrities and FOX, it's not a big stretch to imagine the tail wagged the dog. To think that a radio talk show celebrity with a high school diploma could influence people on important health decisions over one of the most renown infectious disease specialists in the world, is nothing less than mind-blowing.

P.S. And if you'll remember, the start of the pandemic brought a cease fire between Trump and the media. They started calling Trump a "war-time president" and I was proud of the way he seemed to rise to the occasion. He was working with Democrats and Republicans alike to keep America safe. Then just like that, he started to go off the rails and transform into a Denier. It was an extremely sad thing to watch, and one that ultimately forced me onto a political island. I finally recognized the danger he represented and woke up as if I had just taken a cold shower.

At least you’ve finally admitted that you’re woke.

[wufan]

On my recent ER visit, my wife was told she couldn't stay with me in the ER, but if I was admitted she could visit me, and she'd need to because there wouldn't be anybody else available to take care of me.

There was a shortage of health care workers in hospitals before the pandemic showed up. Throw in that some have left the profession for fear for their health and just plain burnout from the hours they have to work and the fact that there were people they couldn't save. There are only so many times someone can induce a coma, stick a tube down someone's throat and tell their family they can never see the patient again until they recover or die.

While deaths among health care workers have not been excessive, when there was already a shortage, even a small number of deaths becomes significant.

Maybe some of the "it's just the flu" crowd could go work in hospitals. Even if they get covid, it's no big deal, just take it easy for a few days and then you're immune.

They aren’t dying and That’s not why they are quitting.

[MoValley John]

Right... it's the shortage of healthcare workers that's the problem, not the infections. If we only had more healthcare workers we could get more vaccinated.

It's a little of all of it. You would be surprised at just how much capacity hospitals are unable to use because they don't have people to staff beds. When hospitals speak of capacity, they don't speak of how many rooms and beds they have, but how many beds they can staff. Hospitals can expand and contract ICU capacity at will if they have staff to do so. Counting ICU beds is ridiculous, lazy journalism, but it sells papers.

More people need to get vaccinated. Period. As covid cases rise in Omaha, more than 90% of the people admitted for covid at Nebraska Medicine are unvacvinated. If you haven't been vaccinated, you aren't paying attention. At the same time, you cannot discount the staff shortage when looking at quality of care of covid pts. receive and the stress it places on the Healthcare system.

[C0|dB|00ded]

It's a little of all of it. You would be surprised at just how much capacity hospitals are unable to use because they don't have people to staff beds. When hospitals speak of capacity, they don't speak of how many rooms and beds they have, but how many beds they can staff. Hospitals can expand and contract ICU capacity at will if they have staff to do so. Counting ICU beds is ridiculous, lazy journalism, but it sells papers.

More people need to get vaccinated. Period. As covid cases rise in Omaha, more than 90% of the people admitted for covid at Nebraska Medicine are unvacvinated. If you haven't been vaccinated, you aren't paying attention. At the same time, you cannot discount the staff shortage when looking at quality of care of covid pts. receive and the stress it places on the Healthcare system.

100% aware of it brother. The point I was making was... even though there are shortages around the country, we are still breaking hospitalization records almost daily.

So they are stretching staff thinner; thus, discussing staff shortages really has no applicability to the pandemic discussion.

Most hospitals are for profit and were run lean before the pandemic, now they're even more lean. If we could triple the staff tomorrow it wouldn't change a thing; the unvaxxed will still be rolling in by the truckload sick and dying.

One dude exclaims, "The media isn't EvEn TaLkInG ABOUT ITTTT!!!!!" So? And yes they are. I've read many stories about low hospital staff. It. Has. Nothing. To. Do. with the price of tea in China... or the ocean of Covidiots walking around this country talking like they know what they're talking about.

You know the staff that's actually important to the discussion? Pharmacists. And they're standing by with vaccine rotting in their freezers. So grab your Covidiot cousins and neighbors and drag their asses to the Wal-Mart.

Thx!

I've been drinkin' tonight.

[C0|dB|00ded]

Wonder if she is related to McLovin

I bet she had naughty plans for Hawaii...

Looks like she hails from Haysville. TLB's 4 Life!